HVR-2200 (2250)

[FJC]

Ok, I've now done the following:

1 - run HCWClear to clear the 2250 drivers
2 - installed the beta ones
3 - verified the tuner works via WinTV
4 - updated Sage to 6_4_8
5 - removed the video sources for the 2250, readded ONE of them as a TVTuner. Rescanned the channels

Now it is ok for ONE recording - but as soon as it switches to a different channel to record a different show, the video locks up or goes black and it shows "NO SIGNAL" on the Sage TV screen. This is true for the recordings, too - they show NO SIGNAL in the center, and the time bar shows no progress, even if I hit the skip ahead buttons and such. I can cancel out of watching such a recording.

Any clues for this symptom?

[JREkiwi]

Insert Step 4.5
Install updates from SageTV Beta for Windows: DShowCapture.dll and TSSplitter.ax

John

[FJC]

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

Insert Step 4.5
Install updates from SageTV Beta for Windows: DShowCapture.dll and TSSplitter.ax

John

I had applied those updated files and neglected to put that in my list above, but thanks JREkiwi - your note prompted me to look a little more carefully, and I had neglected to make the change to the sage.properties file.

That seems to have solved my issue - I can now enter LiveTV and cycle through channels without hitting the NO SIGNAL problem. I also set up the second tuner as Analog and gave it a try.

Next question - what are the steps to set it up to record QAM channels? I'm confused - are people managing to get this card to record 4 shows at a time (two analog and two QAM), or am I just mis-reading and we're really talking 2-analog, OR 2-QAM, OR 1-QAM and 1-Analog?

My goal here is to have the two HDHR inputs be for HD channels (they are now, connected to my antenna for OTA), and have the 2250 do one analog and one QAM, since most of our recordings are major-network HD ones.

[LehighBri]

Originally Posted by FJC

Next question - what are the steps to set it up to record QAM channels? I'm confused - are people managing to get this card to record 4 shows at a time (two analog and two QAM), or am I just mis-reading and we're really talking 2-analog, OR 2-QAM, OR 1-QAM and 1-Analog?

My goal here is to have the two HDHR inputs be for HD channels (they are now, connected to my antenna for OTA), and have the 2250 do one analog and one QAM, since most of our recordings are major-network HD ones.

I recently set up my HVR-2250 and it's working perfectly now via the steps above. This tuner can only tune per the latter situation you mentioned (2-analog, OR 2-QAM, OR 1-QAM and 1-Analog). To set up Sage to handle these permutations:

1. If you're installing new, add the two Analog tuners first as TV tuners
2. Add a QAM tuner (choose Digital TV Tuner)
3. Do a scan in the channel setup to scan for available QAM channels
4. Remap the channels to your desire
5. Add the second QAM tuner (choose Digital TV Tuner) and tell it to use the same channel source as the QAM tuner above
6. In your Sage directory, locate the .frq file that was created in step 3.
7. Make a copy of it and rename such you have two similar file names, one that ends with Capture-0-QAM.frq and another ends with Capture-1-QAM.frq (this step makes it so that both your QAM tuners have the same settings)
8. One last thing. I was having issues changing live TV channels and I found a fix that worked. Open the sage.properties file and set the following: seeker/fast_mux_switch=false

Hope that helps.

[MattHelm]

Originally Posted by FJC

My goal here is to have the two HDHR inputs be for HD channels (they are now, connected to my antenna for OTA), and have the 2250 do one analog and one QAM, since most of our recordings are major-network HD ones.

Change the encoder_merit on the HDHR to a higher number (like 9) and SageTV will always use the HDHR first, then the HD tuners in the 2250 last so they are free to do HD or SD. Just remember to shut down SageTV first, then make the changes.

If you look back, you can see that's what I did, plus raise 1 2250 tuner up so the one hooked to the cable box is used LAST. SageTV is very good about using the correct tuner when you do this!!!

[AJ Bertelson]

What are the differences between these two 2250's?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116036

The cheaper one is just a white box version correct?

[HelenWeathers]

Originally Posted by AJ Bertelson

What are the differences between these two 2250's?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116036

The cheaper one is just a white box version correct?

The less expensive one does not include the remote control or MCE compatible IR receiver-blaster.

[rabbitslayer]

has anyone had issues with the 2250 missing about 5 minutes off the front of a recording if you are recording back to back shows?

This doesn't happen all the time but, it is annoying enough to make me ask.

[MattHelm]

Originally Posted by rabbitslayer

has anyone had issues with the 2250 missing about 5 minutes off the front of a recording if you are recording back to back shows?

This doesn't happen all the time but, it is annoying enough to make me ask.

See this link, there is a Sage.properties entry that needs to be set while Sage is shut down. They really should make that part of the instructions BOLD.
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36360

[rabbitslayer]

thanks... I guess this was a case of RTFM

[Stuntman]

Originally Posted by Dave62

Yes, I'm able to record:

Analog + Analog
Analog + ClearQam
ClearQam + Analog
ClearQam + ClearQam

Sometimes the display on playback is shifted down and to the right by about 30% of this screen. I think this is a playback issue.

Do I understand that I would need to configure Sage for 4 tuners if I had this card? 2 analog and 2 digital? Sage will then choose the option that suites it best in any given situation (I assume digital would have priority if it was in both EPGs?)

[zenkaizen]

Are the beta files for the DShow and TSplitter and registry fix included in the latest SageTV 6.5.3 beta or do they still need to be installed?

[MattHelm]

Originally Posted by zenkaizen

Are the beta files for the DShow and TSplitter and registry fix included in the latest SageTV 6.5.3 beta or do they still need to be installed?

I'm 99.9% sure they are included with 6.5.3.

[SHS]

Yes it included with 6.5.3 here my thought about this card

I was final able get one from Hauppauge spent all day play with it the other day.
Here my thougth on HVR-2250 which I must say is not all that good or I end up dumb card.
The Hardware Encoder work well depend on the drivers I use I person like the 7.5.6.26322 prerelease but I'm a bit dispointed in fact there didn't not make full use of the Hardware Audio/Video Encoder rigth now which only seem to doing MPEG1/2 encoding which dosen't include all the other Features

Supports MPEG4, WMV VC-1, DivX
Supports AAC, MP3, WMA, AC-3

The ClearQAM SD and HD works really good as far as I can tell.
The ATSC side wow this give me problem rigth way where I only get 5 channel unlike the 1600 and 1800 which give me 21 channel and didn't matter which app I use with 2250 SageTV or WinTV6 I still end up with about only 5 ATSC channel out of 21 Local and Analog Ant/Cable side had really bad picture.
One thing that I didn't like is Analog/Digital tuner which you are limited to two channel recoding only in falling order Analog/Analog, Digital/Digital or Analog/Digital "Digital/Analog" but with a 1600 or 1800 it all ready a more useful dual tuner and if where do a pair of cards you can do 2 Analog/Digital channel at one time unlike 2250 which I though was going be the same to be 2 Analog/Digital give you 4 channel rec at one time on one card oh boy I guset I was wrong there.

[zenkaizen]

Originally Posted by MattHelm

I'm 99.9% sure they are included with 6.5.3.

Thanks for the info.

One other question. Does anyone know how to upgrade 6.4.8 -> 6.5.3 for the WHS version?

[gplasky]

Download the .msi. Put it into the Add-ins folder. Uninstall the old version. (Settings will be preserved) Then choose the new version to install. I always shutdown SageTV and backup the whole directory before an upgrade. Just in case.

Gerry

[tellis]

***Warning, first post***

I built my first, new HTPC last night. Got everything installed and configured(see sig). I'm having a problem configuring the sources. I can't get the 4 sources added like others in this thread. It only lets me setup the 2 tuners, see pics below. I am on digital cable and receive about 66 clear qam channels.

I followed this post from earlier:
1. If you're installing new, add the two Analog tuners first as TV tuners
2. Add a QAM tuner (choose Digital TV Tuner)
3. Do a scan in the channel setup to scan for available QAM channels
4. Remap the channels to your desire
5. Add the second QAM tuner (choose Digital TV Tuner) and tell it to use the same channel source as the QAM tuner above
6. In your Sage directory, locate the .frq file that was created in step 3.
7. Make a copy of it and rename such you have two similar file names, one that ends with Capture-0-QAM.frq and another ends with Capture-1-QAM.frq (this step makes it so that both your QAM tuners have the same settings)
8. One last thing. I was having issues changing live TV channels and I found a fix that worked. Open the sage.properties file and set the following: seeker/fast_mux_switch=false

I've done step 1, but don't understand step 2. I only have the 2 analog tuners listed as a selection (see pic)

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by tellis

I've done step 1, but don't understand step 2. I only have the 2 analog tuners listed as a selection (see pic)

You add each Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture device twice.

So you add "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture", and the first time through you select TV Tuner. Then you add "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture" again, and add the Digital Tuner.

Repeat for "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture #2"

The displayed name "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture" is a misnomer as it's both analog and digital.

John

[tellis]

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

You add each Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture device twice.

So you add "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture", and the first time through you select TV Tuner. Then you add "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture" again, and add the Digital Tuner.

Repeat for "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture #2"

The displayed name "Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture" is a misnomer as it's both analog and digital.

John

Thanks, I think I'm still missing something...

If I go back and try to add them again(first time TV Tuner, 2nd time as a Digital TV Tuner) they only seem to change the source of the tuner, not add a new tuner for each source. Any ideas what I might be missing??

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by tellis

Thanks, I think I'm still missing something...

If I go back and try to add them again(first time TV Tuner, 2nd time as a Digital TV Tuner) they only seem to change the source of the tuner, not add a new tuner for each source. Any ideas what I might be missing??

Sounds like you might be editing the source you've just created, rather than adding an additional source.

After you've added the first source (TV Tuner) Select "Add New Source" again and select the same card again and select the the Digital TV Tuner as the source.

John