VRM9 Artifact Problem/FF/RW Freezes Video

[OldPCGUY]

After a few weeks of observations and last night's complaint from my wife that the FF/RW was not working and the Video looked off, I decided to take a closer look.

System - AMD 5600 Dual Core, 4 Gig Main Mem, ATI3850, 2X2 Terabyate Raid0 (4X1TDrives). ASUS M2NE Mother Board, Snapstream Remote

Capture Card- Hauppauge 1800 with OTA ATSC capture

Sage - 6.4.8

Windows XP -32 SP2

VIDEO Segment - Mpeg2 16:9 720P@60FPS, AC3@48Khz, 5.1
Terminator Sarah Conner Chronical's

Symptoms
1. Large Noticable Block Lines(Artifacts) while panning in different scenes.

2. Playback Freezes as a result of multiple FF or RW. The Video can only be unfrozen with 1 or 2 FF/RW

3. Black screen with audio only when video rendereer is set to overlay

The syptoms are present depending on setup/detailed setup/audio/video settings
All settings are held at default except Video Renderer and Video Decoder


Here is a table with closed captions off

Video Renderer---Video Decoder---Symp1--Symp2--Symp3
Default-----------default------------No------No------No--
Overlay-----------any decode -------?-------?-------Yes(all black screen)
VRM9 ------------Sagetv/acc--------yes-----no------no
VRM9-------------Cyberlink(PDVD7) --yes-----no------no
VRM9-------------ATI MPEG Decode--yes-----no------no


Here is a table with closed captions set to CC1

Video Renderer---Video Decoder---Symp1--Symp2--Symp3
Overlay-----------any decode -------?-------?-------Yes(all black screen)
VRM9 ------------Sagetv/acc--------yes-----no------no
VRM9-------------Cyberlink(PDVD7) --yes-----yes-----no
VRM9-------------ATI MPEG Decode--yes-----yes-----no

So there is no way for me to see artifact free video without the default settings. I supect that I have some setting on thee ATI 3850 Set wrong.

Please note that I am using the default STV and for CC I changed the properties file line cc_option_enabled=true.

OTA SD and HD Captions work fine except I need either VRM9 or Overlay to work.

I would really like some advice before I run off and beg for support from Sage.

It might be something stupid like the 3850 has known bug or something like that.

[OldPCGUY]

As I continue to read here I could easily say the artifacts I am seeing could also be classified as tearing.

[gplasky]

If it is tearing you may want to enable FSE (Full Screen Exclusive) to see if that helps.

Gerry

[OldPCGUY]

Here's Link I found that explains tearing
http://hifi-india.blogspot.com/2006/...-how-do-i.html

I am using a VIZIO 42 Inch HDTV 1080P and a Samsung 1024 Monitor
The Vizio is an extended display to the Samsung.
The ATI card outputs 720P@60HZ to Vizio and 1024P@60 HZ to the Samsung. The max refresh rate is 85HZ on the Vizio and 75Hz on the Samsung.

By Full Screen Mode I think you mean
I just drag Sage to My extended Vizio display and hit the upper right button and SAGE becomes full screen and the VIDEO takes up the whole display. I still see the tearing.

I am pretty sure now that this is mismatch between my refresh rate and the source frame rate. I was able to make the tearing go away by changing the Vizio to a 1024 display early this morning but did not understand why.

I will find out tonight.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by OldPCGUY

By Full Screen Mode I think you mean
I just drag Sage to My extended Vizio display and hit the upper right button and SAGE becomes full screen and the VIDEO takes up the whole display. I still see the tearing.

No. I mean go to Detailed Setup-Advanced-Use Full Screen Exclusive mode. It's the same mode 3D games use to take over control of the video surface. This mode will sometimes eliminate or reduce the tearing.

Gerry

[OldPCGUY]

Hello again Gerry,

Thanks for FSE tip. Too bad I didn't check my email last night

I was on the computer last night for 3 hours running through all my ATI CCC settings and discovered that CCC has a Theatre Mode that works like FSE but locks out SAGE Menus. This mode did remove the tearing but is unussable. I will try the SAGE FSE mode tonight.

Kind Regards,

Tony

[OldPCGUY]

I changed

setup details/advanced - use full screen exclusive mode enabled

This had no effect on the tearing which is what I saw in another post where everyone with and newer ATI Card like 2600 or 3850 or 3870 all had the same probleem with tearing with a VRM9 renderer

The good news is that I got Closed Captions to work in overlay mode but they are very big compared to VRM9.

Now I am going to make ssome reccomened changes to my Video Card Settings and see if this final tweak helps.

But thanks to Big Ger for the assistance