Update on V2.0.13 Release

[White94Cobra]

I think she hates it mainly because it's my pet project. "Tivo works just fine, why do we have to have Sage?" Although she does like it in the rare instance that we have three shows on at the same time. Tivo can only catch two.

We do use 30 second skip on Tivo as well in cetain instances (twice between rounds for boxing, and once after each play in football). But with the bleep noise on Tivo you don't get the 1/2 second audio bursts after each skip like you do in Sage. I think there are times a skip works well, and times smooth ff/rw works well.

[mlbdude]

Do you mean 1/2 second of whatever is playing (normal audio) or some other kind of burst of audio?

[Opus4]

Originally posted by White94Cobra
... the 1/2 second audio bursts after each skip like you do in Sage.

I'm curious... I seem to recall other comments about this. Is that an artifact of software decoding, or what? I don't get such sounds on my xcard.

- Andy

Edit: Hmmm... can't even be all software decoders, since my client doesn't make sound blurbs during ff/rew.

[falchulk]

Opus4, I have seen those posts as well. I remember Jeff responding in one that he has sage set to mute during skips. Knowing this, it's hard to even start o troubleshoot it.

[mlbdude]

That is why I was asking. I have never heard any bad audio during skips, but I get the impression that some may?

I think what Jeff was referring to was muting during channel change.

[White94Cobra]

Yes, I mean the 1/2 second of normal audio. I end up with skip - audio - skip - audio - skip - audio etc... and we usually watch TV with the volume up so it is incredibly annoying and guests have commented on how unpolished it seems compared to Tivo.

When I was using my ATI remote wonder with Girder, I would just hold down my ff1 button (5 seconds) and it was similar to a jerky ff, but still had like 1/8 second audio at each skip. Unfortuantely I haven't found a way to get keys to repeat using my MX500 via the wireless airboard receiver.

[stanger89]

skip - audio - skip - audio - skip - audio etc

Perhaps Jeff could impliment some fading, so that we wouldn't get those blurps of sound.

[mikejaner]

Didn't somebody write a girder FF and REW script a while back for this type of functionality? Does anybody recall where that post is. I searched for a little bit, but could not find it.

mikejaner

[Opus4]

Originally posted by White94Cobra
Yes, I mean the 1/2 second of normal audio. I end up with skip - audio - skip - audio - skip - audio etc...

Ohhhh, now I understand what you mean. The funny thing is: I never noticed it until you mentioned it!

How fast is the system you are using? Hardware or software decoding? (I don't remember your setup.)

I ask because on my faster client, I can use FF via the keyboard (no remote on that PC) and do not get any sound between 10 sec skips. In fact, I get no video or sound until I stop skipping forward or back. This PC uses software decoding on my 2nd monitor. Perhaps the software decoder isn't fast enough to show that short blurb? If so, it is the opposite of what I wondered in my previous post: software doesn't do this; xcard does.

On my slower server, I now notice that I get what you described, regardless of whether I use the remote or keyboard: each skip results in a _very_ short time where the new video & sound is played before it skips again. As I said, this PC has an xcard, so perhaps it receives the new mpeg location from SageTV & decodes/plays a bit of it before SageTV can tell it to skip some more.

- Andy

[mikejaner]

Oh, I found the link for Tivo REW and FF. Has anybody tried this with SageTV2?
http://forums.freytechnologies.com/f...ht=girder+tivo

mikejaner

[White94Cobra]

The system is a 3 GHz P4 with 1 gig of RAM. I'm using the Elecard decoder with Dscaler. CPU usage with 4 tuners recording and watching a show is around 10-14%.

I was using Girder with the ATI remote, but I'm not sure how to use Girder with the MX500/Airboard combo. Since I'm basically just teaching key presses to the MX500, I couldn't figure out how to use it with Girder. If I could repeat a 5 second skip that wouldn't be too bad. The audio burps are very short then.

Right now I've got my skips setup like this:
FF1 = 5 seconds
FF2 = 30 seconds
RW1 = 5 seconds
RW2 = 15 seconds

Unfortuantely the "time scroll" feature for me only duplicates the time for whatever button I press. I don't get the 2.5 minute jumps. I've started using the "time scroll" to get rid of the audio bursts, but it's still a lot of button presses to skip commercials

[gplasky]

You could also do what I do in Girder. I created a group called Skip+ and in the group you can put the appropiate number of FF commands in there. For instance I have 3 FF in that group so one button press is equal to 3 FF presses. If time scroll isn't working properly for you the same concept could be used.

Gerry

[eruji]

Has anybody tried this with SageTV2?

works fine with Sage2

[White94Cobra]

Anyone know if there's a way to get Girder to work with a Wireless airboard/learning remote combo??

[stanger89]

It should be easy enough to get girder to learn events from your remote (airboard). You'll probably want to use sendmessage command and may want to unlink all the keyboard commands in Sage so you don't accidently have girder and sage responding to the same event. Check the link in my sig for my Sage GML using sendmessage.

[salsbst]

It seems to me that it would be very straightforward by use of the keyboard plugin.

[White94Cobra]

My concern with using the kb plugin was that it would affect using the keyboard normally in Windows. But now that I think about it as long as I tell it what window to direct the commands to I should be fine.

[salsbst]

I think the keyboard plugin will receive the keyboard events, not the SageTV window. Then Girder will send events to Sage.

You will probably want to disable the group of keyboard events when the SageTV window is not active. You can do this with the TaskSwitch plugin.