ATI 3450 and VMR9

panteragstk · #1 12-04-2008, 02:12 PM

First of all I want to say how much I love this little card. ALL video playback is flawless when using overlay. VMR9 offers me little or no improvement in video quality (i may notice a difference if i could get it to work.) The main reason I'd like vmr to work is the transparrent menus. It doesn't matter what program I use for playback the video is all kinds of messed up. I have read every thread I can find about VMR and ati cards and haven't found anyone else that has the problems as bad as I do. I have tried multiple drivers with minor improvements. I am pretty sure it is a driver issue because some are better than others. Does anyone know of a specific driver that has little or no issues?

Thanks in advance.

panteragstk · #2 12-10-2008, 05:27 PM

does anybody have any suggestions on how to get vmr9 to work? or any as to why it doesn't?

autoboy · #3 12-10-2008, 07:26 PM

VMR9 and a 3450 worked great for me. Just make sure you enable acceleration in sagetv, enable acceleration in your codec of choice, and use FSE mode. Any other issues may point to more serious issues.

panteragstk · #4 12-10-2008, 08:55 PM

could you please post your settings as I have all accelleration enable within codecs and sagetv. As far as I can tell from my settings it should be working, so hopefully your settings will shed some light on the problem.

Thanks.

cychou · #5 12-10-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by panteragstk

could you please post your settings as I have all accelleration enable within codecs and sagetv. As far as I can tell from my settings it should be working, so hopefully your settings will shed some light on the problem.

Thanks.

What is your OS?

I suspects VMR9 is not working on your system at all. Try download Media Player Classic or DXVA Checker and play some videos in VMR9 first. This will tell you whether the problem is with Sage only or not.

In case VMR9 is not working in your system, download and install the latest DirectX runtime from M$.

cychou · #6 12-10-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by panteragstk

could you please post your settings as I have all accelleration enable within codecs and sagetv. As far as I can tell from my settings it should be working, so hopefully your settings will shed some light on the problem.

Thanks.

What is your OS?

I suspects VMR9 is not working on your system at all. Try download Media Player Classic or DXVA Checker and play some videos in VMR9 first. This will tell you whether the problem is with Sage only or not.

In case VMR9 is not working in your system, download and install the latest DirectX runtime from M$.

panteragstk · #7 12-10-2008, 11:12 PM

It is not working in MPC at all. I have downloaded the current directx as well. I will reload it to see if that helps.

panteragstk · #8 12-11-2008, 12:02 AM

Ok. reinstalled dx9c the newest build and it still won't work. i have the latest drivers for everything on my system. Any other suggestions?

cychou · #9 12-16-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by panteragstk

Ok. reinstalled dx9c the newest build and it still won't work. i have the latest drivers for everything on my system. Any other suggestions?

Please give more details on your setup (hardware/software)!

panteragstk · #10 12-19-2008, 06:39 PM

Hardware is:

Gigabyte 965p-s3 rev 1.0
Celeron e1200
Gskill 512mb ddr2 800x2
AMD ATI 3450 with catalyst control center. driver version 8.11 and 8.5
sony bluray drive

I have tried many driver versions with no luck. VMR9 works wonderfully with mpeg2, but not vc-1 or avc. It doesn't matter what codec I use the video is unwatchable.

Polypro · #11 12-20-2008, 07:03 AM

Try setting ATI's deinterlace mode to "Automatic" in the Catylist Control Center. Any other mode can prevent VMR9 from working...as I found out with my wife's 780G based client. I much prefer green to red for Sage, but see if that helps.

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panteragstk · #12 12-27-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Polypro

Try setting ATI's deinterlace mode to "Automatic" in the Catylist Control Center. Any other mode can prevent VMR9 from working...as I found out with my wife's 780G based client. I much prefer green to red for Sage, but see if that helps.

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I have read quite a bit since my last post. It would seem that the ati cards have a problem with vmr9 and blu ray codecs. Mpeg2 plays fine (sort of) but none of my blu ray rips play reguardless of codec. The nvidia cards do not decode vc-1 via hardware so they were not an option. However, with the codec problems I am having that is not important. I have always prefered ATI video quality to nvidia for video and nvidia for gaming, but this is getting old. I have also read that EVR works great in vista, but i like my stable xp box and am reluctant to switch to vista.

Anybody have vmr9 and an ati video card working with vc-1 or .h264?

S_M_E · #13 12-27-2008, 07:40 AM

I have an ATI 4870 and VMR9 doesn't work in Sage for me either. I tried DXVA Checker and it appears to support it, I don't know what, exactly, I'm looking for though. I downloaded MPC and played every kind of file I have, including DVDs, and they all work fine in VMR9, except in Sage which seems to only like overlay. *shrug*

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I should mention that VMR9 works fine on my WHS server with an nvidia card but not on my XP Sage client with the ATI card. I've tried everything I can think of short of re-installing the client.

panteragstk · #14 12-27-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by S_M_E

I have an ATI 4870 and VMR9 doesn't work in Sage for me either. I tried DXVA Checker and it appears to support it, I don't know what, exactly, I'm looking for though. I downloaded MPC and played every kind of file I have, including DVDs, and they all work fine in VMR9, except in Sage which seems to only like overlay. *shrug*

EDIT:
I should mention that VMR9 works fine on my WHS server with an nvidia card but not on my XP Sage client with the ATI card. I've tried everything I can think of short of re-installing the client.

Have you tried any blu-ray rips with vmr9? I don't have any problem with mpeg2 or xvid either.

S_M_E · #15 12-28-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by panteragstk

Have you tried any blu-ray rips with vmr9? I don't have any problem with mpeg2 or xvid either.

I don't have a bluray drive yet but I have tried .mkv files and everything I have works, avi, mp4, mkv, vob, mpg, wmv, etc... I'd be willing to test small snippets of any format that people want tested, the problem, for me, seems to be sage client+vmr9+ati. I'm putting off reinstalling the client until 6.5 is released.

S_M_E · #16 01-05-2009, 02:33 PM

I'm not big on bumping threads but has anyone found out why vmr9+ATI cards aren't playing well together with Sage? I never had a problem with vmr9+nvidia cards and I don't want to swap out my 4870 for an older nvidia card. I'm hoping I'm just missing a setting someplace or maybe the 6.5 client upgrade will fix it when that's released. Anyone not stuck using overlay with ati cards?

panteragstk · #17 01-06-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by S_M_E

I'm not big on bumping threads but has anyone found out why vmr9+ATI cards aren't playing well together with Sage? I never had a problem with vmr9+nvidia cards and I don't want to swap out my 4870 for an older nvidia card. I'm hoping I'm just missing a setting someplace or maybe the 6.5 client upgrade will fix it when that's released. Anyone not stuck using overlay with ati cards?

It has nothing to do with sage. That is what is bugging me. It doesn't matter if I use MPC or graphedit, I can't get VMR9 to work with my ati card. I have tried every driver anyone has suggested with no luck. I think that EVR is supposed to work, but I'd rather not take my two 8800gt's out of my vista box just to test that theory. There is also no way I am using vista for my htpc. Can anybody confirm this?

S_M_E · #18 01-06-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by panteragstk

It has nothing to do with sage. That is what is bugging me. It doesn't matter if I use MPC or graphedit, I can't get VMR9 to work with my ati card. I have tried every driver anyone has suggested with no luck. I think that EVR is supposed to work, but I'd rather not take my two 8800gt's out of my vista box just to test that theory. There is also no way I am using vista for my htpc. Can anybody confirm this?

VMR9 works with mpc and other players, for me, just not in Sage...

alfi33 · #19 01-07-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by S_M_E

VMR9 works with mpc and other players, for me, just not in Sage...

When you say it does not work in Sage, what exactly do you mean? You get nothing or there is a problem with the picture quality?

I get massive amounts of tearing with my ATI HD3200 when I use VMR9 in Sage running on XP. Overlay is fine.

S_M_E · #20 01-07-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alfi33

When you say it does not work in Sage, what exactly do you mean? You get nothing or there is a problem with the picture quality?

I get massive amounts of tearing with my ATI HD3200 when I use VMR9 in Sage running on XP. Overlay is fine.

I get no video, just black, and other odd effects when the OSD auto hides that I can't describe. The spinning circle stops spinning but never goes away too.

See attached screen shots (one is DVD one is video)...

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