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Old 03-15-2009, 03:24 PM
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HD200 will not drive my plasma....

by that I mean.....

I have a Panasonic TH-42PWD6 which is to say a progressive wide plasma - i.e. not HD. But wide, as in 852 x 480 pixels.

In any case I have a DVI blade in said plasma, and I have a windows XP box with an nvidia on board chipset that had been giving this plasma all the SageTV goodness it can handle.

The DVI blade handles the following signals....
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525 (480) / 60p
625 (575) / 50p
750 (720) / 60p
1,125 (1,080) /60i
640x480 @ 60Hz
852x480 @ 60Hz
800x600 @ 60Hz
1024x768 @ 60Hz
1066x600 @ 60Hz
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Striaght from the manual

Today, I thought I'd hook up an extender and move my server closer to it's OTA anntena. Since an extender I previously purchased worked out great in the bedroom (component). (I have a DVI/HDMI converter dongle that I purchased for this task).

Well the HD200 will not produce an image on the Panny plasma display except for the SageTV logo upon power-up. Yet the same extender will produce an image on my computer monitor in my office (via same DVI, HDMI dongle) on every output setting available. (1080P looks pretty green, assuming my display does not support it).

Have I made mistake with this second HD-200??? I don't get it. DVI is DVI.
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:13 PM
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Actually DVI isn't DVI. There are different flavors (DVI-A, DVI-I) but going beyond that make sure you use the VIdeo Out button on the HD-200 remote and cycle thru and wait for it to sync to see if it finally syncs up at one of the resolutions. Then if it does in one of the HD200 setup menus set it to always be HDMI. (I forget what the exact wording is.)

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Old 03-15-2009, 06:35 PM
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Tried the very button you recommend. Perhaps I did not dwell long enough on each setting.

What is the spiel?

Must I cycle power on the display for every attempt at the output? FWIW: When I plug the cable back into the PC I get desktop without having to cycle power. PC is set to res of 1366 x 768



When I cool off I'll try again.

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Old 03-15-2009, 07:34 PM
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It sounds like your plasma uses DVI-A (analog over DVI) and not DVI-D (digital over DVI). The HD200 uses DVI-D, which is signal-equivalent to HDMI.

I'm betting that your set is compatible with a DVI-VGA converter, which just changes the pin-out of a VGA port to DVI (and vice-versa).
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:34 PM
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On the extender you see the Sage boot up screen. SO a little while after you are sitting there staring at a black screen. Now is the time to press the video out button and wait a period of time to see if it syncs and comes up with a picture. (could be 30 seconds or could be 1 or 2 minutess) If nothing press the button again and wait. Basically you are cycling thru 480i-480p-720p-1080i-1080p. (I think that's basically the resolutions.) Because your display is basically progressive wide and not truly an HDTV (resolution-wise) It may take your TV a while to recognize the signal and sync appropriately. You may also want to try after cycling the video out button and not getting anything to try turning your TV off and then back on to see if that helps the sync.

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Old 03-16-2009, 06:28 AM
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It sounds like your plasma uses DVI-A (analog over DVI) and not DVI-D (digital over DVI). The HD200 uses DVI-D, which is signal-equivalent to HDMI.

I'm betting that your set is compatible with a DVI-VGA converter, which just changes the pin-out of a VGA port to DVI (and vice-versa).
No I think it is DVI-D. Because it is normally driven by the on board nVidia 6150 (via DVI) on my Asus A8N-VM CSM motherboard. Which is set to desktop resolution of 1366 x 768 .

From the motherboard specs....
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Integrated GeForce 6 GPU
High Definition Video Processing, max. resolution 1920 x 1440 for RGB display
Dual VGA output: DVI-D and RGB (*DVI-D can not be converted to output RGB signal to CRT.)
Now I just assumed it was all digital from capture to render to display. But now I am wondering.

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:15 AM
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My plasma's DVI blade is definately DVI-D.

From the Cut Sheet

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Product summary
Connects to a PC that supports digital RGB (DVI-D standard).
(Supports copy protection.) Enables display of images equivalent to 4,096 gradation levels. (Compatible only with RGB signals using “SYNC ON G.”) Compatible with both the PWD8 and PHD8 series.
I'll try the video output button once more when I get home. I just don't get how the thing can drive my monitor fine on DVI, but not this Plasma.
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Old 03-16-2009, 05:44 PM
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I'll try the video output button once more when I get home. I just don't get how the thing can drive my monitor fine on DVI, but not this Plasma.
Done. Nothing.
During splash screen plasma reports sync @ 33.8Khz horizontal 60hz vertical.

Bug report will be submitted.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:39 PM
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Go into Settings->Advanced Setup->Multimedia and select 'Force HDMI Mode'. That should fix the problem.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:00 PM
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Just when I start to doubt the little HD-200 wunder-boxen. Narflex steps in, and all doubts go away.

First it was the ReadyNAS open share issue. Now this. You rock.

Now I can return to my plans to totally reconfigure my server box. Muhahahaha...
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:10 PM
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I recieved my HD200 today and was struggling with this same issue. Very cool to come here and see the MAN Narflex who has all the answers!
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:03 PM
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This should be in the FAQ

I gave up on my TV and switched to YPbPr 5 months ago and just ran across this thread. Presto! Force HDMI fixed it.
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