Can SageTV wake itself up to record a show then return to sleep/standby?

[blueroom]

As the title says, can SageTV wake itself up to record a show then return to sleep/standby? (assuming it would use the PC's RTC alarm (do I have to setup something in the BIOS))

I've noticed a power up delay setting (2min) and I assumed this was so Sage would have time to startup before recording.

[babgvant]

yes it can, you don't have to do anything in bios to make it happen.

[blueroom]

Originally Posted by babgvant

yes it can, you don't have to do anything in bios to make it happen.

Thanks, does it wake from power down or just standby?

[babgvant]

AFAIK standby only. I use S3.

[Graygeek]

Originally Posted by babgvant

AFAIK standby only. I use S3.

I'm thinking from other post you are running an HD PVR, how does it handle the system going in/out of S3? I'd experienced issues with other USB attached tuners and sleep mode. I use S3 with great success on my server and am entertaining adding HD-PVR but worry this will be an issue.

[babgvant]

I haven't had issues with the HD PVR and standby.

[Graygeek]

Originally Posted by babgvant

I haven't had issues with the HD PVR and standby.

Great! Thanks for the reply ... that was my biggest worry in adding the HD PVR. Looks like I'll be putting one on my fathersday gift list along with a second cablebox.

[Djc208]

Only problem with letting the computer go to sleep can be waking it to watch SageTV. If you use extenders they won't wake the computer via the network. It can also be tricky to wake the computer with a remote as well.

So while Sage will wake the computer to record your mileage may vary on how useful that feature is.

[babgvant]

the mce remote will wake it just fine. You can use WOL directed packet to wake it from the extender, I've heard that magic packet will be added soon.

[Graygeek]

I run a dedicated NIC for my extenders, set it to "wake on lan" ... when I turn on either extender using remote the server see's the activity from the extender and wakes. Works great. This is with HD100's ...

[rooobosmith]

Originally Posted by Graygeek

I run a dedicated NIC for my extenders, set it to "wake on lan" ... when I turn on either extender using remote the server see's the activity from the extender and wakes. Works great. This is with HD100's ...

Does this work with a placeshifter PC client as well?

[defilm]

Originally Posted by babgvant

the mce remote will wake it just fine. You can use WOL directed packet to wake it from the extender, I've heard that magic packet will be added soon.

I also use S3, have a USB HD PVR and a MCE remote, and it works like a charm. When waking the PVR using the remote however Sage front end will come up often before the service (if you are running the service). Give it a bit of time to fully recover, or when you move around you may find some of your information missing. I suspect this is largely because when using the service the service actually saves some dynamic information (like Favorites). Once the service is started shortly after the front end comes alive, your SageTV PVR will be back to it's normal self.

Also, the PVR wakes in advance enough to allow for the restore from sleep mode, so you shouldn't miss anything you have scheduled to record in favorites.

Last note, per the manual, SageTV will NOT wake the PVR to do intelligent recording. This is one of those "I either love Tivo, or don't". Since I never
did, I don't have intelligent recordings enabled. But if you do, the PVR won't
wake to record it. I think that was the right decision by the developers IMHO.

Mark

[blueroom]

Am I the only one who can't find the .pdf manual? Doesn't load from within Sage, found a downloadable programmers manual but not a end user manual.

[Opus4]

The SageTV PDF manual is installed with the SageTV server software & is in the install dir. On Windows, you can open it via the SageTV entry in Start -> All Programs, or in the SageTV UI on a Windows PC at Setup -> Help. Or, to read it efore installing SageTV, you can download it via the main SageTV downloads page or from other links such as my sig lines.

- Andy

[Graygeek]

Originally Posted by rooobosmith

Does this work with a placeshifter PC client as well?

Not sure, I've only used my HD100 extenders for this. I think it will work with other devices and the key is the dedicated NIC with WOL capability. I only have the Extenders on it ... that way no other network activity to randomly wake the server. For a brief period I had my HAVA on the Extender NIC, and sure enough it kept the server awake! The other benefit is no other devices competing with extenders for badwidth.

[Djc208]

Originally Posted by Graygeek

I run a dedicated NIC for my extenders, set it to "wake on lan" ... when I turn on either extender using remote the server see's the activity from the extender and wakes. Works great. This is with HD100's ...

The card must support some sort of directed traffic feature. Almost all NICs will do WOL, problem is most will only wake up the computer if they get certain signals (magic packet).

I have a dedicated NIC in my machine, and both it and the onboard NIC support WOL but neither will wake the computer just via pinging the server. I have to send it a certain command to wake it. Which is fine for a client or placeshifter, but the extenders don't support WOL commands.

[Graygeek]

FWIW, my NIC shows in device manager as Broadcom NetExtreme, WOL is set for either Magic & Wake Up Frame. The Wake Up Frame is defined by Broadcom as "when events such as a ping or an Address Resolution Protocol (ARP) request are received", my onboard NIC does not support this and would not wake. So Wake Up Frame capability seems to be the key. If you have Wake Up Frame, when the HD100 is turned on it tries to reach the server IP and triggers the NIC to wake the server. Power Management for the NIC has "Allow Device to bring Computer out of sleep" checked .... I'm thinking there was also a bios setting to allow pci-e to wake system and to keep the NIC powered during sleep.
The down side is any traffic that targets the Server IP address wakes it up. So the subnet tied to this NIC needs to be HD100 traffic only. With this config both my HD100's wake the server from S3 sleep every time and the seem to be no false wakes! I originally worked this out by pinging the server IP with my laptop connected to the specific NIC. .... hope this helps