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Old 07-26-2009, 07:44 AM
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This is exactly the reason I retired my client PC in the living room and switched to the HD200. This was last spring when our electricity rates were sky rocketing (they finally topped out at $.43/kWh).

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Why is power so expensive in Hawaii? The power is about 8 cents per KWH in Minnesota, where about 50% is from coal and 50% from nuclear. Are they running the power plants on coal and shipping all the coal to Hawaii? The 'payback' time to install residential solar and wind power should be very short with those high electric rates. It should also be possible to generate a lot of power by ocean wave power for commercial power generation.

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Why is power so expensive in Hawaii? The power is about 8 cents per KWH in Minnesota, where about 50% is from coal and 50% from nuclear. Are they running the power plants on coal and shipping all the coal to Hawaii? The 'payback' time to install residential solar and wind power should be very short with those high electric rates. It should also be possible to generate a lot of power by ocean wave power for commercial power generation.

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Everything is expensive in Hawaii... except the pineapple...
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"Everything is expensive in Hawaii... except the pineapple... "

Where everyone is on the 'Dole'...
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Mike,

Why is power so expensive in Hawaii? The power is about 8 cents per KWH in Minnesota, where about 50% is from coal and 50% from nuclear. Are they running the power plants on coal and shipping all the coal to Hawaii? The 'payback' time to install residential solar and wind power should be very short with those high electric rates. It should also be possible to generate a lot of power by ocean wave power for commercial power generation.

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Our power plant uses diesel, so when fuel prices increase our electricity rate increases as well. A wind farm was built a few years ago that is supposed to supply up to 15% our the island's power. But they made an agreement to sell the electricity to the electric company at the going rate, so there is no cost savings there.

I'm getting ready to have solar panels installed in the next couple of months. I'm looking at about a 6KW array. With Cap-and-Tax, things will only get worse.

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Everything is expensive in Hawaii... except the pineapple...
Bananas are pretty cheap too.

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"Everything is expensive in Hawaii... except the pineapple... "

Where everyone is on the 'Dole'...
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I'm getting ready to have solar panels installed in the next couple of months. I'm looking at about a 6KW array. With Cap-and-Tax, things will only get worse.
What can you power with something like that??? Cap and tax is going to make it very bad for everyone, Hawaii is doomed it sounds
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What can you power with something like that???
Everything.
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Hmmm, maybe Hawaii should build biomass plants that run on bananas and pineapple...
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Correction: I just did the math, and based on the wattage differences, the yearly power cost of our set up is about $23, versus $215 if we left our PC up around the clock. So, it would take 2 years to recover the energy cost, not just one.

On the other hand, our A/C doesn't have to kick in to cool the room holding the server, whereas the PC generates a LOT of additional heating... Maybe the cost savings is much more than $200 per year...
When we evaluate the coming choice between just replacing our furnace (probably 5k max) and installing a geothermal heat pump for both heating and AC (possibly 30k+) - once we get the bids, we will run "What-If" simulations with various inflation rates.

I'm guessing that with current inflation rate the straight-up furnace replacement will be a slam-dunk and geothermal will be way out there in la-la land.

But with double-digit inflation post-2011..... Who knows...
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