STV Import: TVExplorer for SageMC

[mikesm]

I like the concept, but am wondering how this scales with lots of recordings. We probably have over 2200 recordings right now, and the TV screen in sage is a couple hundred entries long (series recordings, one off recordings, and movies). I like having the videos be separate, since what I do periodically is move movie recordings to a separate directory in videos, which helps declutter the main TV screen.

Using the full screen for the listing of episodes and programs in the normal SageMC helps the family skip down the list of items pretty quickly.

Is it possible to have movies segregated into their own list automatically and leave the TV screen for TV shows alone? That would help scale things a bit more...

Thanks,
mike

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by mikesm

I like the concept, but am wondering how this scales with lots of recordings. We probably have over 2200 recordings right now, and the TV screen in sage is a couple hundred entries long (series recordings, one off recordings, and movies). I like having the videos be separate, since what I do periodically is move movie recordings to a separate directory in videos, which helps declutter the main TV screen.

Using the full screen for the listing of episodes and programs in the normal SageMC helps the family skip down the list of items pretty quickly.

Is it possible to have movies segregated into their own list automatically and leave the TV screen for TV shows alone? That would help scale things a bit more...

in its current incarnation you cannot group recorded movies into a single item that is in the sage recording db. However, its been requested and I'm working on an update to address that. (btw this feature does exist in the default SageMC tv screen... its in SageMC options -> TV -> Group Movies.. or something like that... you do not need to move your recordings out of tv and into the video library (if you dont want)... )

When I talk about imported videos i mean TV Shows that are not recorded by sage (They would have titles like "The Big Bang Theory - s01e01.avi", have metadata associated with them, and have been labeled "TV" by BMT (or mediascraper) ). By default it filters all other videos (dvd, bd, movies, non tv, every video w/o metadata). You can also limit the scope of the videos import to a particular directory (either via a property item or using pathfilterexpressions) which will display all the videos at that path, you can also choose not to import videos and only display Sage recorded TV.

My collection is about half your size (800ish recorded programs and about 100ish groups) I think it works really well and all the different grouping options really help present things in a meaningful way.

Also fuzzy and I are working on a very powerful searching/filtering algorithm where you will be able to store "filter sets" that save certain search criteria (watched/archived/new/manual/library/categories/show title/etc). then you will be able to call up filter set a, b, c whatever.

[petereader]

Hi razorsharpe,

I have a small request. Perhaps this is something that is already available and I just missed it, but in the default SageMC TV menu, there is an option to search upcoming TV shows (by category, title, keyword, etc.). Is there a way to do this from TV Explorer? I can't seem to find it.

Cheers

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by petereader

Hi razorsharpe,

I have a small request. Perhaps this is something that is already available and I just missed it, but in the default SageMC TV menu, there is an option to search upcoming TV shows (by category, title, keyword, etc.). Is there a way to do this from TV Explorer? I can't seem to find it.

Cheers

As stated above fuzzy razr and myself are working on a new api which will have a great search algorithm I would expect great things in the search/filtering in our addins once this is done. Fuzzy has really and is really doing some nice work and me and razor have allot as well going into the api. I hope to get a wiki and post about it up soon so other developers can use it as well

[petereader]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

As stated above fuzzy razr and myself are working on a new api which will have a great search algorithm I would expect great things in the search/filtering in our addins once this is done. Fuzzy has really and is really doing some nice work and me and razor have allot as well going into the api. I hope to get a wiki and post about it up soon so other developers can use it as well

Ah, I didn't realize that included upcoming programming. I assumed it was just for searching within content already recorded. Well then that is very exciting!

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by petereader

Hi razorsharpe,

I have a small request. Perhaps this is something that is already available and I just missed it, but in the default SageMC TV menu, there is an option to search upcoming TV shows (by category, title, keyword, etc.). Is there a way to do this from TV Explorer? I can't seem to find it.

Cheers

as plucky said really cool searching/filtering is coming (thanks to some what is shaping up to be some fantastic work by fuzzy, plucky, and myself)... but in the meantime you can get to the default sagemc search via TVE Options -> Sage Links -> Search... i know lots of extra clicks ... also i believe.. not sure because ive never tested it.. but if using TVE on an HD100/200 you should be able to hit search and be taken to the search menu

[petereader]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

as plucky said really cool searching/filtering is coming (thanks to some what is shaping up to be some fantastic work by fuzzy, plucky, and myself)... but in the meantime you can get to the default sagemc search via TVE Options -> Sage Links -> Search... i know lots of extra clicks ... also i believe.. not sure because ive never tested it.. but if using TVE on an HD100/200 you should be able to hit search and be taken to the search menu

This works just fine. I don't mind a few extra clicks, esp. when I know something better is coming along .

And thanks for search button tip. This works on the client as well (you can assign a search buton via advanced setup). Don't know how many times I passed that by and never noticed.

[toricred]

I was trying to troubleshoot some problems with memory usage and I came across the following in my logs several times.

Sun 8/2 7:26:59.380 [EventRouter-001d6a4c00a1@173db18] EXCEPTION in getValueAsObject:sage.a.e: Error in method reflection of phoenix_api_CreateImage of java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException forhoenix_api_CreateImage( "TVExplorerBanners", GroupAiringBanner, "name:rounded,arcSize:40}", false)

Is this a problem with the way the phoenix api is being called?

[PLUCKYHD]

You shouldn't be seeing this as I am almost positive razr checks for nulls before creating banners mind posting a log?

[toricred]

Here's a log file. Funny thing is that about 2:49 local time is the last reference I see in the logs. I haven't changed anything since noon today so I'm not sure what happened.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by toricred

I was trying to troubleshoot some problems with memory usage and I came across the following in my logs several times.

Sun 8/2 7:26:59.380 [EventRouter-001d6a4c00a1@173db18] EXCEPTION in getValueAsObject:sage.a.e: Error in method reflection of phoenix_api_CreateImage of java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException forhoenix_api_CreateImage( "TVExplorerBanners", GroupAiringBanner, "name:rounded,arcSize:40}", false)

Is this a problem with the way the phoenix api is being called?

just to double check what version of phoenix are you running. TVE Options -> TVE Info -> Phoenix api version.

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

You shouldn't be seeing this as I am almost positive razr checks for nulls before creating banners mind posting a log?

Yes i should definitely be checking for nulls... and have plenty of groups/episodes without banners and do not see references to nulls in my log. So yes please post some logs (the sagetv debug logs)...

Originally Posted by toricred

Here's a log file. Funny thing is that about 2:49 local time is the last reference I see in the logs. I haven't changed anything since noon today so I'm not sure what happened.

nothing attached...

[toricred]

Sorry, I didn't notice it was too big and I didn't get a warning or look to see if it was attached. It's about 2MB zipped. Let me see if I can think of another way to get it to you.

Edit:

Here's an attachment. I had to delete about half the original log file to get it small enough, but there are still several of the errors in it.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by toricred

Sorry, I didn't notice it was too big and I didn't get a warning or look to see if it was attached. It's about 2MB zipped. Let me see if I can think of another way to get it to you.

shutdown sage completely, restart, reproduce the problem, then zip and upload that... should be pretty small then...

[toricred]

I got something uploaded in my previous post (I edited after you posted). The problem is that I'm not sure what causes it so I can't just recreate it when it starts.

[razrsharpe]

mmm... this is what i get for not having good enough debug information in the log (i cant tell what file it's crashing on)... Ill need to add some debug lines in my code and get an update to you. However, not sure when that is going to happen because I'm taking a break from most things sage this week (vacation and family in town).

[toricred]

That's fine. I thought you were already on vacation anyhow. I just wanted to post about it before I forgot. It looks like everything is working fine but I have a file handle leak that I can't figure out the cause of (using Process Explorer to track it down). I wonder if these errors could be symptomatic of file handles that aren't being released. I'll play with it some more this week and see if I can find it.

[dbone1026]

Don't know if this has been asked. I set my filter to sort by season. I noticed that the poster does not change when you change seasons. For instance, Supernatural has 4 seasons. The poster for Season 4 shows up by default. When I select any other season the Season 4 poster remains, even though Posters for Season 1-3 exist as well. Not a big deal, just something I noticed.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by dbone1026

Don't know if this has been asked. I set my filter to sort by season. I noticed that the poster does not change when you change seasons. For instance, Supernatural has 4 seasons. The poster for Season 4 shows up by default. When I select any other season the Season 4 poster remains, even though Posters for Season 1-3 exist as well. Not a big deal, just something I noticed.

currently there is no smarts to the poster display... it just picks one and then always displays it... I'll add it to the list.

[dbone1026]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

currently there is no smarts to the poster display... it just picks one and then always displays it... I'll add it to the list.

Thx. I just noticed that some of my episodes are not showing in TV Explorer. I will dig a little further to see if I can pinpoint the problem.

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by dbone1026

Thx. I just noticed that some of my episodes are not showing in TV Explorer. I will dig a little further to see if I can pinpoint the problem.

I'm guessing these are imported videos, and if so you need to have BMT process them before they can be brought into the list.