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[Tag]

Hi all,

I'm hoping someone here can point me in a direction. I've tried to piece together info from this thread but still hitting a wall.

I too am getting a "no data" problem however I think mine may be different. I have no data for everything listed in the guide...not just around midnight or at end of 7 days.

I have tried XMLTV 5.8, 5.9 and 5.10 with the options and sorts listed in this thread. I tried the plugin listed in the thread and the one on MLars site. I did add the EPGPlugin to the sage.properties file and I have Xerces, in my Sage directory, my JAVA directory and my JRE directory. I think I'm doing everything correctly but still no data.

It's almost as if the plugin isn't running at all. Is there any way to verify this or debug further?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

[Lester Jacobs]

Originally posted by Tag
Hi all,

I'm hoping someone here can point me in a direction. I've tried to piece together info from this thread but still hitting a wall.

I too am getting a "no data" problem however I think mine may be different. I have no data for everything listed in the guide...not just around midnight or at end of 7 days.

I have tried XMLTV 5.8, 5.9 and 5.10 with the options and sorts listed in this thread. I tried the plugin listed in the thread and the one on MLars site. I did add the EPGPlugin to the sage.properties file and I have Xerces, in my Sage directory, my JAVA directory and my JRE directory. I think I'm doing everything correctly but still no data.

It's almost as if the plugin isn't running at all. Is there any way to verify this or debug further?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Strange. Definitely works for me. I assume that you've rerun the Setup from within SageTV and chosen the XMLTV lineup? Also the speeling of the epg plugin in sage.properties is extremely important. The plugin name is xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin. Finally the three plugin classes must be in a subdirectory called xmltv in the SageTV directory.

Failing that, please list the EXACT steps you are taking starting with installing SageTV and maybe we can figure out whether you might be missing a step.

Regards
Lester

[Narflex]

If you set:
HKLM\Software\Frey Technologies\Common\consolewin=1 as a DWORD in the registry,there's you may see some debug info for the plugin (if it has errors).

[Tag]

Thanks all for the help,

I turned on the console window and not seeing any messages.

Double-checked spelling and capitalization and it is correct.

However, this:

rerun the Setup from within SageTV and chosen the XMLTV lineup

may be my missing step. I've rerun setup multiple times but I do not see "XMLTV Lineup" . When running setup Wizard, I see the following items:
1) Complete/Addmodify/Remove....I select remove and remove all sources
2) Rerun Setup Wizard - Brings up a welcome to setup screen. I select Enter to continue
3) Select video capture. Only one option: Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture. Select it
4) Enter SageTV Access Code - I select "Do Not have Access Code"
5) Select Input: S/Composite/Antenna/Cable - I select Cable
6) Complete Setup

After that, entering "Channel Setup" shows Channels 1-158 that all say Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture TV Tuner.

I'm using v1.2.8 of Sage TV

If this all looks right, I will uninstall everything and document installation steps.

Thanks again for the help...I really appreciate it!

[Lester Jacobs]

Originally posted by Tag
Thanks all for the help,

I turned on the console window and not seeing any messages.

Double-checked spelling and capitalization and it is correct.

However, this:



may be my missing step. I've rerun setup multiple times but I do not see "XMLTV Lineup" . When running setup Wizard, I see the following items:
1) Complete/Addmodify/Remove....I select remove and remove all sources

Ah! I see the problem.
At this stage you should be choosing "Modify", to modify an existing setup. When you get to the access code screen, use access code "TRIAL" and then zip code 00000. You should then see XMLTV Lineup as a choice (if not choose Dish Network).
Continue as normal and your guide data should be imported
(I assume that you have also prepared an "epgdata.xml" file previously using the xmltv tools?

Please check mlar's webpage as he has very specific details on how to install the plugin including the steps I mentioned above.

Regards
Lester

[justme]

Off current topic:This refers to the midnight "no data" for some users in 0.5.9/10. It looks like they found the bug, at least the fix works fine for me in 0.5.10 now. I am posting part of an email I got from Ed below. I doubt he minds since it seems he would like feedback on this.

Ed wrote:

The bug you found in tv_sort seems to be a bug in the 5.40 version of
the Date::Manip module. People running the Perl source code should
get the latest alpha release of Date::Manip from
<http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~sbeck/DateManip.tar.gz>. People running the
Windows executable can get a development version at
<http://ese-cad.com/xfer/xmltv.exe> (although this has other changes
besides the date bug fix).

The bug will be fixed in the next xmltv release, although it may
involve making a non-standard release of the Date::Manip module as
well.

For me copying the XMLTV.exe from the second url, over the xmltv.exe in my 0.5.10 dir allowed me to just use 0.5.10 for downloading and sorting. As Ed said there are other changes, since this is built from the lastest alpha code but it works great for me. Appearently the bug has something to do with wether you set your TZ or let XMLTV chose it.

[Tag]

Well with one last email to support, I appear to be working!!!

Thanks a lot to Frey Support, Lester and everyone else that helped out

[Mr_X]

Having some trouble with XMLTV and the plug-in for SageTV...
Here are my command lines:

xmltv tv_grab_na >epgunsorted.xml
xmltv tv_sort --output epgdata.xml epgunsorted.xml

tv_sort takes a LONG time, and outputs plenty of overlaps, but that's not what my problem is! =)

It's when I go through the setup wizard in Sage, I select the input, etc. etc. and select XMLTV data as my provider, and the channel order is all mixed up!

Channel 2 is listed as "Channel 25 TNNC"
Channel 3 is listed as "Channel 28 CMT"
Channel 4 is listed as "Channel 26 ARTSC"

and so on. Channel 25 IS TNNC, but why is it coming up as Sage's channel 2?

I took a look at EPGDATA.XML, and here's how it starts:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE tv SYSTEM "xmltv.dtd">

<tv date="20030602002429" source-info-url="http://www.zap2it.com" source-info-name="Zap2It" generator-info-name="tv_grab_na V2.20030426" generator-info-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmltv">
<channel id="10 LOCAL">
<display-name>Channel 10 LOCAL</display-name>
</channel>
<channel id="11 CBXFT">
<display-name>Channel 11 CBXFT</display-name>
</channel>
<channel id="12 KREM">
<display-name>Channel 12 KREM</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/cbs_30.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="13 ACCNET">
<display-name>Channel 13 ACCNET</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/access.gif" />
</channel>
<channel id="14 KSPS">
<display-name>Channel 14 KSPS</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/pbs_30.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="15 CBNEW">
<display-name>Channel 15 CBNEW</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/cbc_news.gif" />
</channel>
<channel id="15 VOICE">
<display-name>Channel 15 VOICE</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/voicep.gif" />
</channel>
<channel id="16 KHQ">
<display-name>Channel 16 KHQ</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/nbc_30.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="17 TREEC">
<display-name>Channel 17 TREEC</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/treehouse.gif" />
</channel>
<channel id="18 MUCHMUSIC">
<display-name>Channel 18 MUCHMUSIC</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/muchmusic_30.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="19 CWEA">
<display-name>Channel 19 CWEA</display-name>
</channel>
<channel id="20 YTVP">
<display-name>Channel 20 YTVP</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/ytv.gif" />
</channel>
<channel id="21 TSN">
<display-name>Channel 21 TSN</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/tsn.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="22 KAYU">
<display-name>Channel 22 KAYU</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/fox_30.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="23 WP">
<display-name>Channel 23 WP</display-name>
</channel>
<channel id="24 TLC">
<display-name>Channel 24 TLC</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/tlc.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="25 TNNC">
<display-name>Channel 25 TNNC</display-name>
</channel>
<channel id="26 ARTSC">
<display-name>Channel 26 ARTSC</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/ae.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="27 SPONET3">
<display-name>Channel 27 SPONET3</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/sportsnet.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="28 CMT">
<display-name>Channel 28 CMT</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/cmt.gif" />
</channel>
<channel id="29 CNN">
<display-name>Channel 29 CNN</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/cnn.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="3 CFCN">
<display-name>Channel 3 CFCN</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/ctv.jpg" />
</channel>
<channel id="30 SCR">
<display-name>Channel 30 SCR</display-name>
<icon src="http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/hs.gif" />
</channel>

Any ideas???

-Mr.X

[justme]

First did you mean:
xmltv tv_sort --output epgdata.xml epgunsorted.xml
Anyway, that's irrelevant if you see the data in SageTV.

Are you using Lester's modified code? See this post. When I switched to this updated code I no longer had to remap my channels.

[grot]

Must use lesters code. Instant fix.

[Mr_X]

Perfect!

Thanks so much!

-Mr.X

[Lester Jacobs]

The xmltv plugin was broken by xmltv release 0.5.14. The upgraded xmltv plugin that works with xmltv 0.5.14 can be found here. .

Cheers
Lester

[craiger316]

Originally posted by Lester Jacobs

I really initially liked the Frey solution since it supported my Creative card but the lack of guide data for Canada and the inability to import guide data into the Frey database is a showstopper. As soon as Frey either provides a way to import guide data (hopefully xmltv) or supports Canadian listings then I'll be buying their product.

Lester, if you are looking for a PVR solution that has legit Canadian listings my company is developing one. In fact, if you would be as kind as to fill out our survey, that would be a great help (this goes for any other Canadians out there!). The survey can be found here:

http://infopoll.net/live/surveys/s22830.htm

If you do not feel comfortable entering your email on the survey but would still like to be considered as a beta tester, simply email us at info@onshore.ca and we will add you name to the list.

We have gotten the express written permision of Frey technologies to post to the forums. For further updates you can check the new Canadian international forum on this message board.

Thanks,

Craig.