SageMC: book of grudges :-)

[shill]

Originally Posted by crusader

Well, after spending a day rescanning and regenerating my lineups it seems that I finally understood how whole thing works:
- every tuner gets a "lineup" associated with it
- lineup is essentially a list of channels (given tuner can potentially see)
- where every channel is: "Station ID" + "Logical Channel Number"
- Station Id is a number/integer (maybe country-specific) that is used to identify a broadcasted channel (and it's name, e.g. KIAHDT). Some station id could have the same channel name (I think I've seen smth like KHOU-DT listed twice in remap screen with different station ids)
- "Logical channel number" is just a convenience -- will be used by your EPG (along with station name). It can be anything
- also every channel has "physical channel number" -- this is something tuner-specific (contains enough information for tuner to tune to specific channel). Physical channel number gets filled in related channel of your lineup during scanning process. Somehow SageTV knows how to associate them (probably uses official channel names for OTA (2.3, 14.5, etc), and uses prefilled info in homerun setup utility for ClearQAM)
- every channel in lineup (associated with given tuner) can be switched off
- tuners can share lineups
- then after you have setup all lineups -- EPG will make a move and collapse same channels from all lineups into one line in EPG using Station ID (not name) as unique channel id (e,g, #85) and Station name & Logical Channel Number of the first lineup that contains (in enabled state) this channel (e.g. KIAHDT, 305). Order of lineups is defined by order of tuners in your Video Sources menu. In my case first tuner connected to comcast cable (ClearQAM), and since my lineups overlap ~70% most of my channels have numbers like 305, etc...

Hope this is correct and will help somebody. :-)

I actually took the list of channels from OTA and my cable provider into Excel and made up my own channel numbers from start to finish. I grouped them by my own arbitrary categories, alphabetized them, and left room between categories for growth. I also made sure that my OTA channels w/cable equivalents had the same channel #, and that my non-HD capture card didn't have the HD stations, but my HD-PVR had both.

It was a lot of confusing work, and the input process with SageTV's lineup screen is BRUTAL (needs a mass-import/edit feature or external tool!), but the result has been fabulous for my family.

[Naylia]

That's a pretty cool idea.

[Fuzzy]

I also reorganized my channels by category back when I had cable... though since moving to Dish network a couple years ago, I leave them be. One, Dish is already pretty well organized. Two, I never really interact with the channel by number anymore anyways. All I ever see are SageTV Recordings from the malore menu.

[loomdog32]

At one point in time, I took the time to map all the channels I used and remaped a custom channel list.. Since I rarely change channels by number, it made more sence to see all the channels grouped by genre...


The problem your likely having with your locals is this.. your local channels have analog and digital versions (most cable/sat companies still carry the old analog versions).. make sure the guide lists the correct channel

ie - KOSA (SD CBS), KOSADT (HD CBS), KOSADT2 (SD MYTV) - I use this as an example because zap2it (and the sage guide) mislabels channel 16 as KOSADT when it is really KOSADT2.. Also KOSA is channel 7, where KOSADT is channel 7-1 - both have the same guide data, except hd markings..