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Old 04-13-2010, 10:59 AM
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Power "blink" UPS?

Is there such a thing as a UPS-type device that is only designed to cover "blinks" in power, i.e., less than 1 or 2 seconds, tops? Maybe some sort of capacitor-based gadget or something, about the size of a typical power strip?

My house has underground utilities and we don't experience power outages hardly at all, but we occasionally get the little blink. It's a pain when all the extenders in the house turn on (we normally keep them off/sleeping) and then go into screen saver mode, but I don't have the desire ($) or the space at each unit, to put in even the smallest APC-type UPS. Is there such a thing as a blink-stopping power strip?
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:17 AM
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Is there such a thing as a blink-stopping power strip?

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A blink stopping power strip *is* a UPS.
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:37 AM
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Yeah, that's any UPS. They're cheap, get one!
I just bought a CyberPower 250watt model for $45 and a 750watt model for $125.

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Old 04-13-2010, 02:05 PM
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I was going to say, that's about all a cheap UPS is good for.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:27 PM
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Black Friday last year Staples had APC 350VAC Back up Power Supply / Power Strips for only 19.99. I bought 3 of them just for this sort of thing. Obviously this doesn't help you right now, but my point is that you can get cheap UPS's fairly regularly that will do exactly what you want.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:45 PM
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No offense, guys, but you didn't read my post very well. Okay, okay, I guess I wasn't clear enough about the SPACE requirement, but I did say that I was asking about something smaller than the typical small APC-type UPS. I guess I should realize that tech-type people on this website consider a "power strip" to be the size of the one JetreL linked - I'm actually thinking of one the size of an old-school power strip (the kind that just had six receptacles in a straight line with basically no surge protection other than maybe one of those pop-out thingies). Those which were attached - and yes, I know what a UPS is - are what I already have, but I'm more concerned about size than price. I wondered if a second or two of backup power could be had with electronics rather than a big chunky battery.

I'm guessing from the responses above that such a device doesn't exist...
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:17 PM
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I wondered if a second or two of backup power could be had with electronics rather than a big chunky battery.
You still need somewhere to store the energy. For energy density, batteries beat capacitors hands down. (Capacitors win the speed contest -- they can deliver energy faster -- but are much bulkier than batteries for the amount of energy stored.) So no, there's no such thing as a compact UPS that doesn't have batteries of some kind. Those old-school skinny plug strips barely have room for the wires and minimal (if any) surge protection, never mind batteries.
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:42 PM
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This could solve your "space" issue at your wall receptacles. Can't help you with the $ savings though

http://www.nooutage.com/hups51252k.htm
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:04 AM
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Depending upon the current required, you probably could put some capacitors on the power lead of the HD200. You would need to figure out the run time you desired to figure out what size capacitor you want, but generally, more run time = electrically (and physically) larger capacitor. You could look at a car stereo shop for amplifier capacitors. Generally .5-1 Farad capacitors will be around the size of an aerosol can of spray paint or hair spray.

You could also wire several nicd batteries in a battery holder in parallel with the power lead to the HD200, but the batteries would probably need to replaced every several years since they will be floating and may not be properly charging. The 12volt brick on the MVP will require 10 1.2V AA NiCds or you could use a sealed battery something like this 12v 1.3Ahr battery. Alarm batteries are designed to be charged with almost 14V so the battery will never be fully charged from a 12 volt supply.
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