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Sage 7 UI - for improved readability
Sage 6's UI, with my large fonts, high-contrast backgrounds on menus (bold face type in white with dark blue background) - have better enabled a sight-impaired person here to use Sage.
Sage 7- Not good in this regard. I set the font size min to 22. But there are still lots of items displayed in small fonts thin not bold face fonts in menus grey font face on a grey background (!). One must highlight the item (with buttons) to even read it - across the room. and so on. Are there properties file edits I can do with Sage 7? The biggest deal is the thin grey fonts on a grey background - low contrast. Does not work at 15 ft. from new model HDTV (LCD). The channel names and program titles are low contrast, thin fonts, and are a small portion of the graphic in which the are located (rectangle). Need BIG, so item fills out its container. The font face text is not white; it's grey. Looks OK 2 ft. from PC monitor, but that's moot. See enclosure - and image you're sight-impaired and at 10-15 ft. from LCD TV. Note in the 2nd screen grab the large font for the recorded show description - not so in Sage 7 default. The folder icons that show that a collection of recordings are in a folder - in Sage 7, are very low contrast- almost invisible. 20% larger fonts inside the guide's boxes would help, and/or more contrast. Hopefully there are some properties to alter in sage 7 I know that Sage 7 can fall back to Sage 6's UI - I tried that. But it would be nice to move along to Sage 7, esp. for improved functions like the photo slide show which is better in 7. Also.. not sure what property names to alter in Sage 7. In Sage 6, it was trial and error on these font changes. Last edited by stevech; 05-26-2011 at 09:34 PM. |
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FYI - There are some fonts that won't scale up a lot as there just isn't room in the allocated space so most can be pushed up a bit but some won't change a lot if any. You would need to do a little studio work to make those changes. Jeremy |
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If it is necessary to make some basic visual tweaks to make the Standard Sagetv UI a little easier to read I will take a crack at it in Studio but as far as complicated UI stuff like zooming commands that's out of my knowledge/skill zone even if it is possible. I'm mostly talking about a simple custom theme with simple bacground image and larger fonts at this point and, if necessary, an addon plugin (UI Mod STVi for the Standard UI only) to make any basic changes that can't be done via a theme. Cheers, Jeremy |
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I plan to overcome this issue by adding a projector and a 102" screen. Should make this problem a non-issue
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I did offer to help you, just let me know if there's anything I can do.
J |
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![]() Comments are welcome, I am just thinking outloud. However, I don't want to hijack this thread from the original poster. I would like to hear their thoughts about whether this would be useful to them or not.
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I didn't miss your post about the speech integration etc, it's just way out of my skill range
![]() At this point I have my hands in quite a few things and given that I don't do real coding (java etc...) your more complicated requests are not something that I can help with, but I can handle some minor visual tweaking via a theme or a basic UI Mod for the OP's issues. Cheers, J |
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To those here who will help with Sage 7's UI. My screen grab examples, above, show that Sage 6 was tweaked by me to have better contrast and boldface/large type. Just altering Sage properties file entries, and/or creating new ones. A problem is that the relevant property names aren't documented by Sage as best as I can determine.
So a complex new UI design isn't needed, just help with the same tweaks. Such as changing the grey background to blacker or dark blue, and the font face to bolder most everywhere. Look too at the small font/low contrast text on the right side of the screen when looking at recordings in a folder. And the text that says how many recordings in a folder. But the biggest issue is the EPG (guide) - in sage 7, default UI, versus sage 6 as I show above. The 15 ft. UI design for HTPC should not be done while looking at a PC's monitor! I'll buy the beers, and poor eyesighted person here will shout with glee. |
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