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Thank you

To answer your questions:

- My HD100 setup is with a static IP address.
- I am using a ubiversal remote where all original HD100 remote buttons are mapped
- Yes, when the HD100 goes in stand by I see three rapid blinks of the LINK green LED every 5 seconds. They go for some time and stop at some point. I did not time how long it takes before blinking stops. For sure, when HD100 gets into the non-responsive state, no blinks are present

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OK, can you please tell me a bit more about the network connection you have? wired vs wireless, network path from the HD100 to the server, how many switches/router in the path (brand and model) please, sorry for the homework, but my HD100 is still up and running in standby since last night (15 hours so far).

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Also can you please state brand and model of the universal remote you're using?

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OK, can you please tell me a bit more about the network connection you have? wired vs wireless, network path from the HD100 to the server, how many switches/router in the path (brand and model) please, sorry for the homework, but my HD100 is still up and running in standby since last night (15 hours so far).

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HD100 is connected to SageTV server through 1 switch (NETGEAR FS605NA 5-Port Fast Ethernet Switch) and 1 router (ASUS RT-AC66U). The remote is Logitech Harmony 300.

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I too have a similar problem, but wasn't able to reproduce it consistently. It seems to happen after I've been connected to the LMS and then I pause the music (most often with the Android app, sometimes with a Universal (MX-850)remote) and when I go to use the SqueezePlayer the next time it is not responsive. I'll look at the lights the next time it happens.

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I too have a similar problem, but wasn't able to reproduce it consistently. It seems to happen after I've been connected to the LMS and then I pause the music (most often with the Android app, sometimes with a Universal (MX-850)remote) and when I go to use the SqueezePlayer the next time it is not responsive. I'll look at the lights the next time it happens.

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does this happens with your HD200 & HD300 as well? Can you please try to not use the remote, but just the Android app? This way I can rule out a possible problem with universal remotes that might upset my RC5 decoding.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:07 PM
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HD100 is connected to SageTV server through 1 switch (NETGEAR FS605NA 5-Port Fast Ethernet Switch) and 1 router (ASUS RT-AC66U). The remote is Logitech Harmony 300.

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many thanks, when this happens is someone in the household using the remote to control other devices? There is the possibility that some commands in rapid sequence (macros) upset my button decoding mechanism.
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many thanks, when this happens is someone in the household using the remote to control other devices? There is the possibility that some commands in rapid sequence (macros) upset my button decoding mechanism.
No, this remote is used exclusively for HD100 and connected TV. So, no other macros are ever run. The room is somewaht remote - so it's unlikely that I ma getting some kind of signal reflection from a different room. However, I can try to cover HD100 receiver sensor and see if it changes the situation.
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does this happens with your HD200 & HD300 as well? Can you please try to not use the remote, but just the Android app? This way I can rule out a possible problem with universal remotes that might upset my RC5 decoding.
I don't have any HD200s and seldom use it with my 300s (only turned on for one of them I believe). I will give it a try tonight for both an HD100 and an HD300. Should I not use the remote even for adjusting the volume on the receiver for the test?

Thank you for looking into this.

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Should I not use the remote even for adjusting the volume on the receiver for the test?
Preferably if you don't mind as those buttons are received by the extender as well. This is just to try rule out the issue.

KHA is not even using the squeezeplayer for music as the only thing he needs is the WOL feature, therefore it could be the remote...

BTW my unit is still active after nearly 24 hours in standby.

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Earlier today I remoted in and had it play an album. No problem. After I got home tonight, I connected to the LMS using the web client and then listened to some music. I then paused it for awhile (about 20 minutes). I then hit play (from the web client) and while the client showed it should be playing, it was not. After rebooting the HD100 all was fine again. I currently have it paused and it is resume-able after a short time. I will check it again later. And when it is paused, the link light only blinks once every 5 sec or so.

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Earlier today I remoted in and had it play an album. No problem. After I got home tonight, I connected to the LMS using the web client and then listened to some music. I then paused it for awhile (about 20 minutes). I then hit play (from the web client) and while the client showed it should be playing, it was not. After rebooting the HD100 all was fine again. I currently have it paused and it is resume-able after a short time. I will check it again later. And when it is paused, the link light only blinks once every 5 sec or so.

Hope this helps.

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Wayne, that 5 minutes you mentioned sounded familiar so I went to see the release notes and remembered that what you're experiencing is a known issue that affects the HD100 only and is due to a problem with the "pthread" implementation in Linux 2.4 that prevents to work properly. I've tried to fix that and the best I could do was to allow 5 minutes of pause only, with the HD100 is best to stop the song and not pause it. Please read the release notes here, sorry

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However, I can try to cover HD100 receiver sensor and see if it changes the situation.
Yes, this is a very good idea, also is the HD100 getting some direct sunlight by any chance? This morning the HD100 was still correctly in standby mode attempting to connect to a nonexistent LMS. Tonight I'll try to introduce some "noise" into the network connection and see what happens.

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Yes, this is a very good idea, also is the HD100 getting some direct sunlight by any chance? This morning the HD100 was still correctly in standby mode attempting to connect to a nonexistent LMS.
@kha:
Any news regarding this? In the end my HD100 was still reliably in standby for another full day, then I stopped my investigation awaiting your reply...

Have you tried to cover the IR sensor with tape and using the front panel buttons only?

I'd really like to get to the bottom of this issue.

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Old 06-24-2013, 09:05 AM
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Any news regarding this? In the end my HD100 was still reliably in standby for another full day, then I stopped my investigation awaiting your reply...

Have you tried to cover the IR sensor with tape and using the front panel buttons only?

I'd really like to get to the bottom of this issue.

Thanks
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Sorry for the delay with reply. I did some more testing in the last efw days and here are my observations:
  • Covering IR sensor with tape does not change the locking behavior of HD100
  • Locking occurs anywhere from 2 to 10 min after HD100 is turned off
  • When locking occurs, neither remote nor front panel power buttons can turn HD100 on. However, powering on over the network still works. Hard reboot of HD100 (using back switch) obviously works as well
Please let me know if there is some further debugging I can help with. Is tehre a way to turn on detailed logging to see what's going on.

Reagdrs,
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Sorry for the delay with reply. I did some more testing in the last efw days and here are my observations:
  • Covering IR sensor with tape does not change the locking behavior of HD100
  • Locking occurs anywhere from 2 to 10 min after HD100 is turned off
  • When locking occurs, neither remote nor front panel power buttons can turn HD100 on. However, powering on over the network still works. Hard reboot of HD100 (using back switch) obviously works as well
Please let me know if there is some further debugging I can help with. Is tehre a way to turn on detailed logging to see what's going on.

Reagdrs,
Michael.
Hi Michael,

thanks for your reply. In order to understand better I need to make a special version with all the debugging info enabled for you to try, but before that I suspect that something is going on with the network that the Squeezeslave player doesn't like.

Would it be possible for you to try a quick experiment for me? As your HD100 has a static IP address configured and I guess your SageTV server has as well, could you please temporary connect the HD100 to your SageTV server via the switch taking out of the equation the router?

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Hi Michael,

thanks for your reply. In order to understand better I need to make a special version with all the debugging info enabled for you to try, but before that I suspect that something is going on with the network that the Squeezeslave player doesn't like.

Would it be possible for you to try a quick experiment for me? As your HD100 has a static IP address configured and I guess your SageTV server has as well, could you please temporary connect the HD100 to your SageTV server via the switch taking out of the equation the router?

Thanks
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Using switch but not teh router would be difficult given their physical location and teh fact that the switch is mounted inside the wall cabinet. However, as an experiment, I can connect HD100 directly to SageTV PC via ethernet cable. Will this help?

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Using switch but not teh router would be difficult given their physical location and teh fact that the switch is mounted inside the wall cabinet. However, as an experiment, I can connect HD100 directly to SageTV PC via ethernet cable. Will this help?

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Of course, but don't forget to use a cross-link cable or alternatively a spare switch if you have it.

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Wayne, that 5 minutes you mentioned sounded familiar so I went to see the release notes and remembered that what you're experiencing is a known issue that affects the HD100 only and is due to a problem with the "pthread" implementation in Linux 2.4 that prevents to work properly. I've tried to fix that and the best I could do was to allow 5 minutes of pause only, with the HD100 is best to stop the song and not pause it. Please read the release notes here, sorry

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Thanks Eddy. I guess I should have paid a little closer attention (RTFM?). No lockups since I stopped pausing it!

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Before messing up with this, I would like to gather a general interest on having the Pandora/Spotify compliance setting implemented, therefore please have your say.

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I've just been browsing through some old posts, so this is late, but I'd voice great enthusiasm for Spotify compatibility. However, I thought that Squeezeslave (the programme, not the plugin) could not support Spotify? Something about not supporting direct streaming mode? That's what I've gathered from the slimservices forum, anyway, so assumed Spotify wouldn't be possible on the HD300. Would be very pleased if I was wrong.

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I've just been browsing through some old posts, so this is late, but I'd voice great enthusiasm for Spotify compatibility. However, I thought that Squeezeslave (the programme, not the plugin) could not support Spotify? Something about not supporting direct streaming mode? That's what I've gathered from the slimservices forum, anyway, so assumed Spotify wouldn't be possible on the HD300. Would be very pleased if I was wrong.

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Hi Lee,

unfortunately you're right, Spotify is not supported on Squeezeslave, but only on Squeezelite. I did a private build to support Pandora which works, but Spotify has a different streaming mode that is currently not implemented on Squeezeslave. I have no plans to continue development on Squeezeslave as the demand dropped considerably since last year and I've been very busy on other projects, but you're never know

Thanks for using Squeezeslave
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Hi Lee,

unfortunately you're right, Spotify is not supported on Squeezeslave, but only on Squeezelite. I did a private build to support Pandora which works, but Spotify has a different streaming mode that is currently not implemented on Squeezeslave. I have no plans to continue development on Squeezeslave as the demand dropped considerably since last year and I've been very busy on other projects, but you're never know

Thanks for using Squeezeslave
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I hadn't heard about squeezelite; it's good that there remains some active development of squeezebox stuff even though Logitech are wthdrawing the products.

I understand what you say about not continuing development because of lack of interest, but if you ever decided to change the plugin so it uploaded squeezelite rather than squeezeslave, then I'd happily be a beta tester

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