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Old 07-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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I have an iPad 2 and use it every day. But I don't use it the way most other people do. I use the Splashtop app to remote desktop to my server PC. This turns the iPad 2 into a Tablet PC, and it works great. It works so well that I hardly ever use other iOS apps. I do everything on the iPad through Splashtop, from browsing the web, checking email, and chatting, all at once without quitting any apps. Of course, it also turns the iPad into a SageTV Client tablet.

I don't really care if its android or iOS, as long as it runs Splashtop. Splashtop is a game changer for me. Actually, the battery life is more important, and the iPad battery life is pretty good.

When you see my iPad, it looks like this 90% of the time:



And yes, I get this question a lot: "wow, how did you get Windows on your iPad?"
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:13 AM
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My tablet has replaced my laptop. I needed a laptop before; now I just need the iPad. Your (wife's) tablet may be "just a touchscreen and apps" but I don't have that limitation. My iPad has a keyboard, accesses my personal and work email, creates and maintains documents, etc. In addition, it's a great portable media device with great battery life.

So yeah, I need my iPad and I no longer need my laptop (but thanks for trying to speak for me).
Ok... that makes sense... When I hear that people have replaced their laptop with an ipad (or any tablet for that matter), I am baffled as to how that could be. I mean, it's ok for consuming content, but it's pita to creating content, ie, documents, emails, responses of any kind, etc.

But, yeah, i can see replacing a windows based screen an keyboard with an ios based screen and keyboard. That makes sense... Although, i hesitate to say that the "ipad" replaced it but that the combination of an ipad plus docking station plus keyboard replaced your single laptop device

And it here that I think the MS Surface tablet will be a success... it will have keyboard built into the stand, which attaches to the screen... so basically the MS surface tablet is a laptop.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:22 AM
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And it here that I think the MS Surface tablet will be a success... it will have keyboard built into the stand, which attaches to the screen...
Yes I agree with this -- I said in another forum, "If it's well designed/manufactured (sturdy, reliable, etc), then including a stand AND a keyboard AND a case is brilliant in my opinion."

By the way, I have a case/keyboard/stand combo ($75) for my iPad but not a docking station (I don't really need a full docking station), and that's what turned the iPad from being just a media consuming device to something productive that I can use instead of my laptop. And that's what I base my comment above on re: brilliant.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:25 AM
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Yes I agree with this -- I said in another forum, "If it's well designed/manufactured (sturdy, reliable, etc), then including a stand AND a keyboard AND a case is brilliant in my opinion."

By the way, I have a case/keyboard/stand combo ($75) for my iPad but not a docking station (I don't really need a full docking station), and that's what turned the iPad from being just a media consuming device to something productive that I can use instead of my laptop. And that's what I base my comment above on re: brilliant.
Yeah, I agree. I've often wondered when I've heard the comment, "my ipad has completely replaced my laptop"... how could that be... but yeah, I can see that for most people it could do that with the appropriate accessories... i just never think about the accessories, since i don't have any It could never replace my laptop/desktop mainly because I use it for development (both work and home) and as such my tablet doesn't see much love
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:31 AM
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It could never replace my laptop/desktop mainly because I use it for development (both work and home) and as such my tablet doesn't see much love
Exactly. When I telecommute a full day (vs being offsite for meetings, etc), I'm definitely using my desktop at home (and my desktop at work). But a tablet's portability over a laptop can make it a good traveling alternative (be it from the desk to a meeting room or away on business or on vacation) to a full laptop.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:56 AM
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I have an iPad 2 and use it every day. But I don't use it the way most other people do. I use the Splashtop app to remote desktop to my server PC. This turns the iPad 2 into a Tablet PC, and it works great. It works so well that I hardly ever use other iOS apps. I do everything on the iPad through Splashtop, from browsing the web, checking email, and chatting, all at once without quitting any apps. Of course, it also turns the iPad into a SageTV Client tablet.

I don't really care if its android or iOS, as long as it runs Splashtop. Splashtop is a game changer for me. Actually, the battery life is more important, and the iPad battery life is pretty good.

When you see my iPad, it looks like this 90% of the time:



And yes, I get this question a lot: "wow, how did you get Windows on your iPad?"
How is splashtop any better, in your opinion, than VNC, Logmein, etc which all have apps for the ipad?
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:59 AM
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How is splashtop any better, in your opinion, than VNC, Logmein, etc which all have apps for the ipad?
I don't know about vnc, logmein, etc, but I know the splashtop app will do video playback seemlessly using the placeshifter/client on windows.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:10 AM
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Second vote for Splashtop
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:19 AM
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I don't know about vnc, logmein, etc, but I know the splashtop app will do video playback seemlessly using the placeshifter/client on windows.
OH YEAH!! hmmmmm
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:36 AM
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I am going to get another PC tablet this fall. I currently am using an Acer Iconia W500, running Win8 RP. I have both Sage Client and Placeshifter on it, and have installed the ffdshow and Halli splitter. Works just like all my other clients... flawless.

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Old 07-18-2012, 10:27 AM
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I'm on the fence since the boss got his iPad3, but still lean towards Droid. Apple is fine as long as you don't "leave the reservation." I'm too much of a tweaker/geek to let things stand as they come from the box. The buy-in price for iPad keeps me away as I will root any mobile device I buy within 24hrs. Don't want that much $$$ tied up in a pissing match with the mfgr over warranty.

The custom software I run on my devices literally breathes new life and functionality into them. I run 4.0.x (4.1 is available, but my fave developer hasn't released it yet) on my kindle along side of the almost-stock factory s/w. I can plug a 320GB (was sitting around unused) usb drive or any thumbdrive into it and play any media I own. Would be nice to have gps/compass but not really necessary. It's a $200 device afterall.

My Galaxy 10.1 runs smooth as glass on everything I've thrown at it and has an adapter (hate the proprietary plug, like iDevices) with usb, micro-usb, SD, & microSD slots. I use it to play movies for my daughter on trips as my vehicle doesn't have the DVD option ($2000 dealer device vs. $300 tablet that I can configure the way *I* want).
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:44 AM
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The buy-in price for iPad keeps me away as I will root any mobile device I buy within 24hrs. Don't want that much $$$ tied up in a pissing match with the mfgr over warranty.
For what it's worth, I've jailbroken every iOS device I've had (three iPhones, one iPad). I once had the wifi stop working on a jailbroken iPhone during the initial one-year warranty. I simply restored to the original firmware (never an issue doing so with a jailbroken iOS device in my experience), went to the Apple store, they confirmed the wifi was dead after doing their own restore and I got my free replacement. Zero hassle and from reading on various Apple-related forums, that's the norm.

(Not trying to dissuade you or anyone from Android, just sharing my personal experience with jailbroken Apple devices).
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:41 PM
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For what it's worth, I've jailbroken every iOS device I've had (three iPhones, one iPad). I once had the wifi stop working on a jailbroken iPhone during the initial one-year warranty. I simply restored to the original firmware (never an issue doing so with a jailbroken iOS device in my experience), went to the Apple store, they confirmed the wifi was dead after doing their own restore and I got my free replacement. Zero hassle and from reading on various Apple-related forums, that's the norm.

(Not trying to dissuade you or anyone from Android, just sharing my personal experience with jailbroken Apple devices).
so video will play back in VLC using splashtop, but not via sage client.. any ideas?
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:54 PM
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so video will play back in VLC using splashtop, but not via sage client.. any ideas?
That's a Sage Client playback issue, not splashtop.
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That's a Sage Client playback issue, not splashtop.
Well, Playback works find on the computer i am using splashtop Streamer on, however when connecting via my ipad video playback doesn't work... it shows me everything quite nicely, menus, animation, thumbnails, etc. But when it comes to actually playing the video back it doesn't come through the ipad (but as mentioned before does show up on the computer im splashtoping)
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I have an iPad 2 and use it every day. But I don't use it the way most other people do. I use the Splashtop app to remote desktop to my server PC. This turns the iPad 2 into a Tablet PC, and it works great. It works so well that I hardly ever use other iOS apps. I do everything on the iPad through Splashtop, from browsing the web, checking email, and chatting, all at once without quitting any apps. Of course, it also turns the iPad into a SageTV Client tablet.

I don't really care if its android or iOS, as long as it runs Splashtop. Splashtop is a game changer for me. Actually, the battery life is more important, and the iPad battery life is pretty good.

When you see my iPad, it looks like this 90% of the time:

And yes, I get this question a lot: "wow, how did you get Windows on your iPad?"
This is very interesting. How does Splashtop do this? Do you need to enter in a SageTV client license or something? Is it just using the server to play video over your network onto your iPad? When I use VNC to watch the server video over my network, it is so choppy that it is unwatchable (PS works well, obviously).

Does Splashtop play live TV from the SageTV server?
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apparently VMR9 did the trick. Im curious though what are others using?

Yes live tv playback works. i actually cannot believe how well splashtop works. way better than vnc and logmein... it actually a usable client for me now! sweet and thanks guys/gals for the recomendation
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sweet and thanks guys/gals for the recomendation
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This is very interesting. How does Splashtop do this? Do you need to enter in a SageTV client license or something?
No, nothing to do with SageTV licensing.

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Is it just using the server to play video over your network onto your iPad?
Yes, you install the Splashtop server on the same PC that has a SageTV client running on it. You then use the Splashtop client/app to connect to the Splashtop server.

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It simply displays (video and all) whatever is displaying on the computer that has the Splashtop server installed.
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Conceptually, splashtop just sends screenshots of your screen... I'm sure in reality it's more complicated, but the end result is usually WYSIWYG. Your tablet/laptop just ends up being a user interface for your PC, so you wouldn't need a license for it any more than you would need one for another monitor or keyboard.

Splashtop has gone to pains to make the process fast and they advertise that you can even play games and watch videos via the interface. I haven't tried it over a reduced bandwidth connection, but it works fine via my LAN.

It doesn't entirely play well with windows 8 though, because win8 relies heavily on moving the cursor to various corners of the screen, which I find hard to do with my tablet. And my tablet doesn't have a 'windows' key. I'm sure it won't be long before splashtop has a solution (or maybe they do that I haven't found yet...)
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