MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[JasonJoel]

Of course, you could always wait two weeks and see what the 'big announcement' from Frey is going to be.

Judging by their listed for the CES show, they are going to come out with a native set top box device for SageTV 3.0.

Of course they aren't commenting on this officially until CES (Jan 6-8 I beleive).

I'm not a big believer in waiting for things, but I thought you should know that is coming. Of course the Media MVP will continue to work anyway, so you won't lose if you go that way either!

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

thats awesome. Definitely will get an MPV now.

I read that some people said there are lags for the menu interaction during playback, how much of a lag is it? split second, one second or two?

One more thing, whats a recommended PC processor speed for the MVP Client software?

[Deadbolt]

...or maybe they'll talk about it...get everyone ready for a year...and pull the plug on the project...<cough>STUDIO<cough>

[JasonJoel]

While I don't agree that they 'pulled the plug' on the project, I do agree with the sentiment.

NEVER bank on 'vaporware'. Only buy/use a product for what it does NOW, not what it MIGHT do in the future (regardless of promises). I think that philosophy is true of ALL things in the computer world.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by Deadbolt

...or maybe they'll talk about it...get everyone ready for a year...and pull the plug on the project...<cough>STUDIO<cough>

[krutaw]

Originally Posted by mhatten

If you haven't been told a solution yet... here is what I do.
I have another PC using a very limited setup of GBPVR with the DVD2MPEG plugin only (http://www.bladerhq.com/pmwiki/pmwik...lugin/DVD2MPEG). I can throw a DVD in and in about an hour I have single mpeg file of the movie. I then copy the mpeg into one of my sage import directories.

The first version of the plugin had audio synch problems, but the later ones work perfect. I've ripped about 5 DVDs to mpegs and the MVP plays them perfectly.

Nice. I used this same method and it works. I'm gonna see if I can't get the command lines down to be able to eliminate the GBPVR instance.

[foolio]

does STOP on poweroff currently work with the current beta? when I poweroff the MVP, it isn't releasing the tuner; I have to manually press stop, then poweroff. annoying when someone other than myself is using the MVP and doesn't understand or forgets to push stop.

maybe it's STV dependent? I'm using MLBDUDE'S SageMC, if that matters.

[krutaw]

Originally Posted by krutaw

Nice. I used this same method and it works. I'm gonna see if I can't get the command lines down to be able to eliminate the GBPVR instance.

Wow, just found something interesting with playback of a ripped dvd. I was playing a very large dvd rip (4.79 gb) and noticed that when the playback started, the video skipped to abound an hour into the video within seconds of starting the playback.

I was able to manually rewind back to the beginning of the movie, so the file is intact. I then opened the file with Windows Media Player, and it played just fine. Is it possible that the MVP can't handle files larger than a particular size?

[JasonJoel]

I don't think there is a size limit. I play recorded movies all the time successfully. They are all 6+ GB in size.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by krutaw

Wow, just found something interesting with playback of a ripped dvd. I was playing a very large dvd rip (4.79 gb) and noticed that when the playback started, the video skipped to abound an hour into the video within seconds of starting the playback.

I was able to manually rewind back to the beginning of the movie, so the file is intact. I then opened the file with Windows Media Player, and it played just fine. Is it possible that the MVP can't handle files larger than a particular size?

[R_Andersen]

I may be missing something simple, but I have SageTV running on a pc in the living room. I have now installed Sage Client on this same pc outputting to a MediaMVP in the bedroom. I have it working properly, but only if I use SageTV in service mode. If I run SageTV in single mode by only using SageTV.exe and not the service, Sage client does not connect. It says somthing like 'Sage Client will reconnect once the service is restarted'. Should I be able to run Sage Client while runng SageTV in single mode?

Also, is there a way to run the Sage client for the MVP so that it automatically starts in sleep mode on a reboot? I have my computer configured to reboot automatically every morning at 5:00 am. I would like it to reboot, load SageTV in fullscreen mode and load Sage Client for the MVP in sleep mode (minimized).

Anyway, thanks for the great client!!

-Rob

[Matt]

Originally Posted by krutaw

Wow, just found something interesting with playback of a ripped dvd. I was playing a very large dvd rip (4.79 gb) and noticed that when the playback started, the video skipped to abound an hour into the video within seconds of starting the playback.

I was able to manually rewind back to the beginning of the movie, so the file is intact. I then opened the file with Windows Media Player, and it played just fine. Is it possible that the MVP can't handle files larger than a particular size?

There shouldn't be any file size limits in the MVP Client. The only limiting factor should be the file system.

After rewinding, were you able to play the movie via MVP Client or did it skip each time by an hour?

Originally Posted by R_Andersen

I may be missing something simple, but I have SageTV running on a pc in the living room. I have now installed Sage Client on this same pc outputting to a MediaMVP in the bedroom. I have it working properly, but only if I use SageTV in service mode. If I run SageTV in single mode by only using SageTV.exe and not the service, Sage client does not connect. It says somthing like 'Sage Client will reconnect once the service is restarted'. Should I be able to run Sage Client while runng SageTV in single mode?

Should work either way. Did you disable the Service or did you just stop it?

Originally Posted by R_Andersen

Also, is there a way to run the Sage client for the MVP so that it automatically starts in sleep mode on a reboot? I have my computer configured to reboot automatically every morning at 5:00 am. I would like it to reboot, load SageTV in fullscreen mode and load Sage Client for the MVP in sleep mode (minimized).

GuiServer.minmizeToTrayOnStart=true in mvp.properties should do the trick.

-Matt

[R_Andersen]

Thanks Matt!! And I think I figured out the server problem too...

-Rob

[Matt]

Originally Posted by foolio

does STOP on poweroff currently work with the current beta? when I poweroff the MVP, it isn't releasing the tuner; I have to manually press stop, then poweroff. annoying when someone other than myself is using the MVP and doesn't understand or forgets to push stop.

maybe it's STV dependent? I'm using MLBDUDE'S SageMC, if that matters.

Should definitely work independently of the STV used w/ the latest beta but I'm going to try again w/ the latest SageMC STV.

-Matt

[Matt]

Originally Posted by foolio

does STOP on poweroff currently work with the current beta? when I poweroff the MVP, it isn't releasing the tuner; I have to manually press stop, then poweroff. annoying when someone other than myself is using the MVP and doesn't understand or forgets to push stop.

maybe it's STV dependent? I'm using MLBDUDE'S SageMC, if that matters.

It's indeed the STV or more precisely the dialog in SageMC that pops up on Stop.

I'm currently just sending a Stop command to SageTV but this obviously isn't good enough anymore.

I'll fix this for the next version.

Thanks,
Matt

[SidKnee]

I've got to say that Matt's MVP work has moved Sage from a hobby into a must have for me so - 10/10 Matt

I have one question that I can't find listed anywhere regarding the client/MVP properites. I've 2 MVP clients running off my main Sage Server (installed following Matt's instructions) and have been successfully running the SageMC STV on them (WAF is really on the up!).
I noticed yesterday that the setup menus for both MVP's appear to be the same as the server UI menus, and not the same as normal client setup menus. Is this supposed to be this way? I.e. if I go into the detailed setup/advanced menu for either MVP it lists entries such as 'Sage Server - enable/disable' and doesn't list the client entry for 'automatically connect to Sage server' (can't think of the exact wording). Also neither client asked which Sage server to connect to when first installed.

The original client was installed in a seperate directory to the Sage server, but on the same machine, and I've tried this with Sage running both as a service and also a normal app.

Cheers,
SidKnee

[edit]
Just wanted to add that Matt's suggestion of changing the autoconnect_server_hostname worked a treat. Cheers Matt

[foolio]

Originally Posted by Matt

It's indeed the STV or more precisely the dialog in SageMC that pops up on Stop.

I'm currently just sending a Stop command to SageTV but this obviously isn't good enough anymore.

I'll fix this for the next version.

Thanks,
Matt

Thanks for the bug fix, Matt. Otherwise, the MVP is working GREAT!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by SidKnee

I noticed yesterday that the setup menus for both MVP's appear to be the same as the server UI menus, and not the same as normal client setup menus. Is this supposed to be this way? I.e. if I go into the detailed setup/advanced menu for either MVP it lists entries such as 'Sage Server - enable/disable' and doesn't list the client entry for 'automatically connect to Sage server' (can't think of the exact wording). Also neither client asked which Sage server to connect to when first installed.

Wow, never noticed that! Looks like SageTV Clients connecting to "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" are considered "Server UIs". You can change the autoconnect_server_hostname=localhost property in SageClient.properties to the real network name of the PC (while the client is down) and the UI should become a real Client UI ;-)

-Matt

[JasonJoel]

Heh, I never noticed that either.

But I've been staying out of 'tinkering' in the Setup menus lately... Everything has been working so well I've been doing a lot more watching than 'tinkering'.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by Matt

Wow, never noticed that! Looks like SageTV Clients connecting to "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" are considered "Server UIs". You can change the autoconnect_server_hostname=localhost property in SageClient.properties to the real network name of the PC (while the client is down) and the UI should become a real Client UI ;-)

-Matt

[pciccone]

Originally Posted by Matt

Wow, never noticed that! Looks like SageTV Clients connecting to "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" are considered "Server UIs". You can change the autoconnect_server_hostname=localhost property in SageClient.properties to the real network name of the PC (while the client is down) and the UI should become a real Client UI ;-)

-Matt

Reason for this is when sagetv is running in service mode the sagetv.exe is actually the same code as the sagetvclient.exe runs. For example, running in service mode would produce a sagetv.properties for the service but also a sagetvclient.properties in the same directory even though no client is involved. Of course, the hostname it connects to is "localhost".

In fact, if one wanted to he/she can run the sagetv directory solely as a service and then install the client on the same PC (similar to how we do it for the MVP) and leave it as localhost to run locally as if it was running sagetv.exe from the sagetv folder. To me, this is a good idea when using custom STV's because it sets a very clear seperation in directory structure between the service and the client in case something gets messed up along the way. wiz.bin becomes seperate too, not sure if thats good or bad. You can actually see the wiz.bin get copied locally from one directory to the other if you are running a debug window on the sagetv service.

My 2 cents

Phil

[Cayars]

I got a question for some of you guys running the MediaMVP.

when you first power your device on what Version does it show?

[JasonJoel]

1.0. On all three of my MVPs, which are all different hardware revs.

Jason

Originally Posted by Cayars

I got a question for some of you guys running the MediaMVP.

when you first power your device on what Version does it show?

[jptaz]

REV 1.0 for both of my MVPS.