MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[Matt]

Originally Posted by NivekNaj

...now if only the SageTV client didn't eat up my CPU!

Well, I can't help you with the SageTV Client

For the next version of the MVP Client, I've changed the RGB->YUV image conversion to fixed point math and this might help on a Celeron (it doesn't on a Pentium P4). I even tried a native C implementation, but at least on a P4, the performance gain is very small (Java can be surprisingly fast).

FWIW, I now see similar CPU load w/ the MVP Client on a P4 3GHz as I see w/ the Hauppauge sofware when navigating the menus.

Originally Posted by insomniac

Matts client is absolutely awesome. I just hope that someone buys him a pinnacle or buffalo box so that he can adapt it to them soon!

Should the Buffalo turn out to be the perfect media player and there's a chance to display custom menus on it, I'll buy one and implement a SageTV GUI for it. Problem might be with "display custom menus" though. The Pinnacle has no good way that I know of (you can only display HTML on it) and the reverse-engineering scene is not as fast as they were with the MVP. Eventually, media players will hopefully start supporting UPnP RemoteUI...

Would have loved to go ahead w/ the Roku player because they have developer support, but they have no state-of-the-art device supporting divx/mpeg4

Should any media player manufacturers read this, I'd love to add support for more devices, but without help of the manufactures...

-Matt

[briands]

I'm being presses again to look at geting ripped DVDs to play on the MVP. What is the latest and greatest to do the conversion necessary? Is there any software that will convert to the necessary format on the fly during ripping?

[JasonJoel]

That is what I'm hoping for the Buffalo. The support UPNP and the Windows Media Connect technology, but do not support the UPNP Remote UI (yet).

I agree that if vendors would start supporting that, then it would be much easier to all sorts of other intefaces on their devices...

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by Matt

Eventually, media players will hopefully start supporting UPnP RemoteUI...

-Matt

[insomniac]

well....if you ever do get a working client onto a more robust media player, you have a $35 donation from me.

Originally Posted by Matt

Well, I can't help you with the SageTV Client

-Matt

[waynedunham]

Just to let you all know, Roku has promised UPnp on the next version of the 2.0x Beta for the PhotoBridge (renamed from HD 1000) which should be coming out soon. That first UPnp version will just introduce it and what they're saying hints to me that it may not be 100% complete, but will gain robustness quickly.

After a fairly long wait for updated firmware there has been a flurry of Beta drops lately so I'm hoping that they keep up the pace.

I'm 99% sure I won't have anywhere near the expertise required to implement it, but would be fully willing to help in testing out any Sage Client for the Roku PhotoBridge (aka HD 1000)

I have the Roku in the living room and an MVP in the bedroom running SageMvp so I would be able to also easily do side by side comparisons.

I'll drop a note here once the UPnp firmware comes out along with any details about how to make it "go".

Fingers Crossed,

[NivekNaj]

Matt,

Thank you for your reply! Is there any chance I could test a prerelease of your next MVP client? I am dying to show my wife SageTV. If your next version cuts processor load enough on my celeron then I could sleep nights. Thanks.

[Wakecrash]

Can you startup an addational client to watch on the same server that is running the MVP clients?
I have a server running in service mode, running 2 MVP clients. Addationally I have a seperate HTPC Client. I have a client license for server and one for the HTPC.

I create a shortcut to run an instance of the client to watch on the servier with the multi parameter but when it starts it locks up my HTPC and MVP clients, although the service continues to run. I close the client that I just tried to start and my HTPC and MVPs come back. Servier is runing W2K with Sempron 2500 and 512M memory. I also tried starting the Sage TV program, which I assumed whould just start the GUI, but the same lock up occurs.
Any thoughts?

[Pondracer]

I've installed the plugin first as a service, then after not having good luck with that I installed the SageTV Client and tried with the second configuration type.

I can load the application and the menu displays fine, but it will not interact with the remote. The screen will change (on the TV) as I move through the menu on the application server using a mouse.

I've tried launching the sagetvclient.exe file with the -multi command, but that doesn't seem to change anything.

Setup is a AMD 1.2g Athlon server w/656 RAM. The Sage TV service runs on this machine, and the PVR-150 card is installed there. 100 mb network, MVP player upstairs.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by Pondracer

I can load the application and the menu displays fine, but it will not interact with the remote.

So everything works OK, except for the MVP's remote? I'll take a guess for that one -- when you installed the MVP plugin, did you use the SageClient.properties file that comes with it? In it, there are several ui/rc_mappings/xxx lines that set defaults for the remote buttons. If you don't have those in your properties file, you should close SageTVClient & copy those lines into your SageClient.properties file, then restart the MVP client.

If you want to check that the remote is even working w/the MVP, make sure to have the TV set to the Detailed Setup -> Commands -> Show Commands. Then, use the MVP's remote & press some buttons to see if any button codes appear on the screen.

If you want to customize the remote layout... while at the TV w/the MVP's remote, go to Detailed Setup -> Commands -> Link Command. Select a command in order assign a remote button to it.

If that doesn't help your situation, then I suppose you'll have to wait for someone else with a better idea.

- Andy

[chrisc16]

I am having trouble getting MVP Client Beta6 working correctly. Here is my setup:

SageClient 2.2.7
MVP connected via Ethernet
Default STV

I can start the Client and the UI shows up correctly on the computer screen. When I plug in the MVP, it finds the software, starts the application, and loads the front page of the UI, but after that everything halts and the MVP locks up. I have attached the log file if it helps.

Thanks for any help.

-Chris

[Matt]

Originally Posted by chrisc16

I am having trouble getting MVP Client Beta6 working correctly.

Hi Chris,

from the log:

The MVP doesn't have an IP address. Make sure the DHCP server is running and accessible by the MVP.

I guess you are running the MVP using a crossover cable. This is currently not supported. I'm preparing a new version that will support this scenario.

The new version should be ready a few days after a stable SageTV 2.2.x build (one w/o Library bug) is available.

-Matt

[DIBU]

i have the problem, that the client after some hours crashed on my server with an java error.

i have no idea why!!

the crash comes when i watch or when the mvp is off. after 20mins to 4 hours. sometimes mvp1 or mvp2 or both.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by DIBU

i have the problem, that the client after some hours crashed on my server with an java error.

i have no idea why!!

the crash comes when i watch or when the mvp is off. after 20mins to 4 hours. sometimes mvp1 or mvp2 or both.

When did this start? With 1.5.0_02? Saw in your other post that you are using lots JVM tweak args. Did you ever try without those -XX etc. args? Did you try reverting back to 1.5.0_01 or 1.4.2?

In any case, I'm running Java 1.5.0_02 with default settings (I just use the default StartMVPClient.cmd )

-Matt

[DIBU]

Hi, the XXXX is my ser.number. i have this replace with XXXX.

i use also the default 1.5.2 java and default sage. i have install the java and sage and the client new, but i have the same.

[chrisc16]

Originally Posted by Matt

Hi Chris,

from the log:
I guess you are running the MVP using a crossover cable. This is currently not supported. I'm preparing a new version that will support this scenario.

The new version should be ready a few days after a stable SageTV 2.2.x build (one w/o Library bug) is available.

-Matt

Matt,

Thanks for the reply. Due to your suggestion I checked my CAT5 wiring and it turns out that I crossed the wires on my punchdown block and created a "crossover" cable after all. After fixing the wiring, the MVP client works perfectly.

Thanks again,
Chris

[Matt]

Originally Posted by DIBU

Hi, the XXXX is my ser.number. i have this replace with XXXX.

i use also the default 1.5.2 java and default sage. i have install the java and sage and the client new, but i have the same.

I was talking about "-XX:NewRatio=3 -server -XX:MinHeapFreeRatio=25 -XX:MaxHeapFreeRatio=40" but it looks like they are coming from SageTV or are even VM defaults.

In any case, the Java VM seems to crash during garbage collection ("VM_Operation (0x0617f320): full generation collection, mode: safepoint, requested by thread 0x0405ccd8").

Looks like this is very similar to this:

http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view...bug_id=5073999

I'd recommend you post your problem there, especially if you have a reproducible case.

-Matt

[joesmoe]

had sage running fine with client on same pc ,pvr-250 card(cable).decided to add another card to pc on network(150 mce).installed client on network pc to add dtv, all i get on mvp is the the conection error.do i have to add recorder software to see the 150 mce .

[jelder]

I hope this has not been addressed elsewhere in this thread, I did a search and didn't see it. I have a problem where if I play an album or a playlist, it will only play one song and then stop. Occassionally it will actually look like it disconnects for a second from the server. I think I read somewhere before that you made a change to send a stop command if the mvp client disconnected from the server. I thought that was just for video. Could this be what is causing my problem with mp3s. It works fine on the server. Thanks for your help.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by joesmoe

had sage running fine with client on same pc ,pvr-250 card(cable).decided to add another card to pc on network(150 mce).installed client on network pc to add dtv, all i get on mvp is the the conection error.do i have to add recorder software to see the 150 mce .

If you want to add a capture card to your setup that is not in your SageTV server PC, you have to use Recorder (the SageTV Client cannot drive capture cards).

If your MVP Client is not running on your SageTV PC, you have to tell the Client what server to use by configuring autoconnect_server_hostname in sageclient.properties (while the MVP Client is not running).

Originally Posted by jelder

I hope this has not been addressed elsewhere in this thread, I did a search and didn't see it. I have a problem where if I play an album or a playlist, it will only play one song and then stop. Occassionally it will actually look like it disconnects for a second from the server. I think I read somewhere before that you made a change to send a stop command if the mvp client disconnected from the server. I thought that was just for video. Could this be what is causing my problem with mp3s. It works fine on the server. Thanks for your help.

If you get disconnects, the MVP itself will stop the media streaming. It would be a lot of work to add automatic resume of media file streaming after a reconnect. The Stop I have added just makes sure the MVP Client releases capture cards used for Live TV.

All you can do is try to lower the disconnect rate, e.g. by making sure the PC is not pushed to the limit (CPU/RAM) and the network is working well (preferably wired instead of wireless, network settings as described on the Hauppage MVP support page, auto-speed on switches to allow the MVP to work at 10Mbit/s etc.).

-Matt

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by Matt

If you want to add a capture card to your setup that is not in your SageTV server PC, you have to use Recorder (the SageTV Client cannot drive capture cards).

Just a reminder for joesmoe, since he mentioned the 150 here: SageTVRecorder cannot use the 150 (see its system requirements), but there is supposed to be a way to use another SageTV installation to make it act as both a client & network encoder -- see this post for info from Frey. (You would need another SageTV license, or you could move the 250 + SageTVRecorder to a client and use the 150 on the server. If you need further help with Recorder, please see that part of the forum.)

- Andy