MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[DIBU]

Hi i have replace the dongle.bin with the new version..that's what i mean...works great for me!!!

[Wakecrash]

I beilieve I am having the same problem mentioned a few weeks ago. Not sure if the PC is actually rebooting, by the time I get upstairs, windows screen is back up, service is running or in the process of restarting, and clients are closed. I go to task manager and runtime of all services is less than 1 minute. Anyone find out what causes the problem.

I am using latest release Sage, mvp client 1.2.1, and Cayers 17. The server is in service mode with two instances of mvp client, although the 2nd one the mvp client is usually off.
seems like it happens more offen if I hit ff when the ff would take it past the eof. although last night it brought up cayers popup menu asking if I would like to delete the file, that option was/is disabled. I did set to enable, exit, then back in to reenable. but problem only happens once a day to 4 days, don't know if that will matter.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Wakecrash

Not sure if the PC is actually rebooting, by the time I get upstairs, windows screen is back up, service is running or in the process of restarting, and clients are closed. I go to task manager and runtime of all services is less than 1 minute. Anyone find out what causes the problem.

Looks like you are the third to mention reboots. Must be hardware/driver related somehow plus some special conditions the MVP Client is causing.

What Motherboard and what OS are you using? What capture cards? If I remember right, DIBU mentioned something about a very new motherboard and SATA drives.

-Matt

[Wakecrash]

my specs are
MB= Chaintech 7NJL6, Native SATA support but not used, disabled but still shows on boot up. Nforce2 chipset
OS=W2K sp4
512M memory
HD 1 & 2 IDE 160 GB drives setup as dynamic to give 30GB to C drive and the rest to D.
HD 3 200 GB IDE on a Silicon image 680 ATA controller
Nvidea TI 4200,
latest released drivers for MB and vid card
for PVR I have 2 150MCEs driver 2.0.18.22316 and 1 250 driver 1.18.21.22301
RS232 serial bd, driver list as Sunix PCI 4037A
Thanks,

[DIBU]

Originally Posted by Matt

Looks like you are the third to mention reboots. Must be hardware/driver related somehow plus some special conditions the MVP Client is causing.

What Motherboard and what OS are you using? What capture cards? If I remember right, DIBU mentioned something about a very new motherboard and SATA drives.

-Matt

that's right, i have find out that some controllers are bad with some memsticks (this are often with infinition or with 1gb mem or more)

[Wakecrash]

I think the windows crash has to be a memory allocation issue, leak, or something like that. I do have Cayers V17 with comskip enabled as well, latest release sage.

I popped in an addation 512M memory, now I have 1 gig. I did this cause it seemed most crashes happend when the mem usage for the 1st client creeped up over 200 meg and free physical memory dropped below 20 meg. I am running w2k, and nothing else on server.

Now I am at 1gig no crashes in 3 days, however now on day 3 I can sit and watch mem usage on client go from 150 meg, and eat up 500K every second till it gets to just under 400Meg (I think), back to 150, then repeat. Comskip is currently running, and only 1 MVP is on, when I turn mvp off via remote, the mem stops increasing, and after a few seconds goes back down to around 150M. Once start mvp back up and watch a show, it goes back up by a few meg, but then stays stable.

[AndyS]

I have also been having the same memory problem as Wakecrash (but without the reboots). My MVP/Sage-Client memory utilization seems to run really high, and if I increase physical memory the allocation to the MVP client increases further. At some point my MVP locks up and the only way to fix it is to restart the MVP client.

Is it possible to get some MVP memory-utilization logging switched on? At least we'd then know if it's an MVP problem or a SageClient problem.

I'm running SageClient 2.2.8 with the latest MCE169 STV.

Andy.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by AndyS

I have also been having the same memory problem as Wakecrash (but without the reboots). My MVP/Sage-Client memory utilization seems to run really high, and if I increase physical memory the allocation to the MVP client increases further. At some point my MVP locks up and the only way to fix it is to restart the MVP client.

Anyone has such problems with the standard STV? I've been using multiple instances of the MVP Client 1.2.1 with the standard STV for weeks without problems. Memory usage is very stable and size really only seems to depend on the EPG data size. My server has 1GB RAM and the peek memory size is at about 130MB for each MVP Client (this is with TV Movie/XMLTV EPG data and about 40 channels and 1 week of data).

What version of Java are all you using? I'm using 1.5.0_02 but I see there's a 1.5.0_03 now.

As for enabling memory profiling of the Java VM, only Frey (Jeff) could help enabling this since the Java VM is started by the Sage(client).exe.

-Matt

[Wakecrash]

I am using 1.5.0_02, I have thought of switching back to standard stv, but I like the weathersuite and comskip.

[dnlmln]

Hello everyone,

Is there a way to set (or force) the interface on the MVP to full duplex?

I checked my switch statistics and the port to which the mvp is connected to shows many collision fragments. This is normal for a half duplex environment and I see no ill effects when watching my shows.

I tried forcing the port on the switch to 100mbit full duplex but all that did is create FCS and alignment errors on the switch port; and that is NOT good. Besides, what ever i watched would sutter horribly when left this way.

Any ideas ?

[JasonJoel]

Nope, sorry.

Jason

Originally Posted by dnlmln

Is there a way to set (or force) the interface on the MVP to full duplex?

[hufnagel]

Hauppauge recommends hooking the MVPs to the 'server' via a hub and not a switch incidentally. Having said that, I have 4 MVPs routing through a 24 port 10/100 switch (Dell 2224) that has only about 6 ports remaining open and deals with alot of data traffic other than just the MVPs; so far no bandwidth issues over the switch.

[src666]

NEVER use an ethernet hub. EVER. It is an incredibly dumb device that causes network congestion. If a device won't work on a switch, then the device is broken either at a functional or a standards level.

Personally, I just bought one of Dell's new affordable PowerConnect 2700 switches (managed gigabit switch at about $17 per port). I have a gigabit port on my HTPC and server, and I'll hang each of my media devices off of it as well, ensuring that every device gets an unshared direct connection to the server's port. Good stuff!

[AndyS]

Originally Posted by Matt

What version of Java are all you using? I'm using 1.5.0_02 but I see there's a 1.5.0_03 now.
-Matt

I'm using 1.5.0_02-b09 although I've also tried it on 1.4.2 with the same result. I have two other PCs using the MCE169 STV and I'm not seeing the same problems on those machines.

I guess without a way to get more diagnostics we're shooting in the dark with this one.....

Andy.

[Grey_Goose]

I'm getting quite a bit of rapid stuttering.

Setup

Sage server -> 100mbit switch -> x-over to 100mbit hub -> a) Sage client; b) MVP

Video plays fine on the pc w/ sage, with network ut at a steady 10%. When going throught MVP network spikes 5-20%. Obviously with the MVP talking to the client, then the server there will be a bit more overhead, but I was hoping to have a watchable client.

I've already done the MVP reg tweaks on the client, to no effect.

Suggestions?

[waynedunham]

Any reason you have the Sage Client and MVP on a hub? I'm running Sage and Sage Client on my server in the office/computer room with my MVP in the bedroom and it works great. I have it all running through the switch in the basement.

I'm guessing it's that hub that's causing the problems for you. Try running your client on the server and just plug the MVP in with no hub and I'll bet your problem goes away.
If that does the trick and you still want a client and the MVP in the same room then change the hub for a switch. If you can beg/borrow a switch to verify that's what the problem is before spending $$ on a switch even better.

[Grey_Goose]

yeah i decided to go that route. dropped the hub from the equation, jacked the mvp straight into the switch, ran the client on the server, and put a wireless nic in the pc that was also on the hub. voila! everything working perfectly. sage distribution REALLY underscores the effectiveness of switches over hubs!

[blechn]

Sorry if this has already been covered. I am really excited about the prospects of setting up a SageTV system with a couple of MediaMVPs but was wondering ... If I stop a video file midway to watch live tv or something else and then return to that video another day, will Sage and the MVP client remember where I left off? What if I have 2 MVPs? Can I watch part of a show in the living room, stop the file and then resume at the same point from another MVP in another room or would I have to FF? Thanks

-Mike

[chrisc16]

Originally Posted by blechn

Sorry if this has already been covered. I am really excited about the prospects of setting up a SageTV system with a couple of MediaMVPs but was wondering ... If I stop a video file midway to watch live tv or something else and then return to that video another day, will Sage and the MVP client remember where I left off? What if I have 2 MVPs? Can I watch part of a show in the living room, stop the file and then resume at the same point from another MVP in another room or would I have to FF? Thanks

-Mike

The MVP client(s) work no differently than the standard SageTV client software - if you stop a video file (Sage Recordings only - not imported videos), any other client, standard or MVP, will resume the video where you left off.

-Chris

[Pegleg]

Anyone have the problem of Sage TV Client shutting off when the computer is waken up?
I have the latest client and sage tv software running on winxpsp2..no customizations other than to run MVP using the MVP client.