MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[Wakecrash]

Originally Posted by kkoz

Matt,

When running the SageTV Client install (v2.2.8) on my SageTV server machine, where should I install the client?

I want to make sure I don't mess up my functioning SageTV server machine.

Thanks,

-Kevin

Check out http://www.streams.ch/index/mvpclient/install
Matt includes a .jpg of what a directory structure can look like for muliple mvps, if just one, just use one directory.

[nox71]

Here is my problem, i just installed SageTV latest beta 3.0.7 and the new Mvpclient 1.3.0 and everything is working fine except for one thing when starting live tv for the first 10 to 15 seconds the sound is crap just like when you try to play a sound and your CPU as not enough power to do it and if i change channel it does the same thing.

Any idea ?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by nox71

Here is my problem, i just installed SageTV latest beta 3.0.7 and the new Mvpclient 1.3.0 and everything is working fine except for one thing when starting live tv for the first 10 to 15 seconds the sound is crap just like when you try to play a sound and your CPU as not enough power to do it and if i change channel it does the same thing.

Any idea ?

If you skip to the begining, does it have the same sound problems again or is this really just for live TV start and channel changes? If it's the latter, do you see the CPU go high on channel changes? If yes, which process?

-Matt

[SHS]

Say Matt how come you build in jar file??.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by SHS

Say Matt how come you build in jar file??.

Sorry, I have no idea what you are asking here.

-Matt

[SHS]

like at mvp.jar which house all 22 folder and 93 file in one zip file put in the SageTV\JARs\ folder or root of SageTV folder

[Matt]

Originally Posted by SHS

like at mvp.jar which house all 22 folder and 93 file in one zip file put in the SageTV\JARs\ folder or root of SageTV folder

I don't think SageTV 2.1 supported this and for the time being, I'll try to have just one version supporting SageTV V2.1 and V3.

-Matt

[dagar]

Matt-

I'd like to thank you/congratulate for your hard work and skill on this project. I purchased an MVP tonight, got the files and followed your directions and was operational the first time I tried.

It truely was plug and play for me. I return to Circuit City tomorrow to pick up a second MVP (hard to beat $55 ).

For reference:
-Server is Windows 2k3 running Service (until I get my second MVP, then break out the MVP function to a Sage client instance)
-AXP-M 1800 / 1gb DDR / Abit AN7
-MVP is rev 1.0 (haven't even looked in to an update for this)
-Running Sage v3.0.7b
-MVP UI STV is via Meekall with the MVP optimization

Cheers!

[ukmgranger]

Could someone give me a hand?

I am trying to setup an MVP but I am having a little difficulty.

I have installed SageClient onto the same machine as my SageTV (in a different directory) and I have also installed the MVP files into the directory.

My MVP displayes the UI on the screen connected to it, however there is no information such as EPG or recorded TV within the MVP client. It seems as though the sage client is not really connecting to the Sage service which is running on the same machine.

I also noticed that if I go into 'advanced' settings, I can't change anything in the option for 'Sage TV Server'. The box is not as tall as normal and has no text in it.

any ideas?

[BobPhoenix]

Don't know if this will help or not but I had a similar experience and found that the connection ID (sorry don't know the actual properties name) in the SageClient that I installed was still pointing at "local host" so SageClient was acting like the pseudo client of SageTV server. Soon as I changed it to the IP address of the SageTV server (same physical PC) it fixed my issues. Don't know if that will help you or not but your problem sounded similar to what I remember happening to me.


BobP.

[ukmgranger]

Thanks for the info BobPheonix but this didn't seem to do anything.

Any other ideas people?

[ukmgranger]

I managed to sort it!

I had vsn 3.0.5 of SageTV and vsn 3.0.7 of Sage Client.

Sorted

[msmith8228]

Matt:

Thank you for your excellent work -- I have this running with two MVP's and everything is great. It worked first time and the new release seems to reduce the number of disconnects and the system is slightly more responsive.

One final problem to resolve -- the slow response for the remote control. In many cases I have to hold down remote buttons for a few seconds to get a response. Some screens are great -- others are very slow (such as the live Guide). This can be very annoying and as a result the system is just not "wife ready'. A quick push of the remote control most times will get missed -- and requires careful control and long / multiple pushes to get everything to work. My PC that this is running on is a high performer with a lot of memory and when everything is running it is not over loaded. I completed some tests with only one MVP running and get the same slow / sluggish remote performance.

Is there anything you can do about this? This one last issue if fixed would make the system perfect.

[dagar]

Msm, I'm having the same reaction for the UI/remote. My system is not high end though, so it's good to see that misery loves company

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by msmith8228

Matt:
One final problem to resolve -- the slow response for the remote control. In many cases I have to hold down remote buttons for a few seconds to get a response. Some screens are great -- others are very slow (such as the live Guide). This can be very annoying and as a result the system is just not "wife ready'. A quick push of the remote control most times will get missed -- and requires careful control and long / multiple pushes to get everything to work. My PC that this is running on is a high performer with a lot of memory and when everything is running it is not over loaded. I completed some tests with only one MVP running and get the same slow / sluggish remote performance.

Is there anything you can do about this? This one last issue if fixed would make the system perfect.

Just curious, are you running SageClient on the same machine as the server, or a different machine? The reason I ask is that I'm running SageClient on the server machine and I'm not seeing any of the remote lag I keep seeing mentioned here. Remote seems just about as responsive as sitting at the server machine and mousing/keyboarding from there.
I usually only watch recorded stuff on the MVP and sometimes do maintenance there.(toggling watched, don't like, etc and deleting recordings) I rarely go to the guide since I set all my manual recordings sitting at the server keyboard once a week.
Last night, I flipped on the MVP and saw a few shows recording that I didn't want. Seems like IR went into one of it's "hey, he must like anything in this category" fits after some recording I made and had gone and listed almost 100 shows in the "scheduled recordings" menu. I used the remote to tag all the offending ones as "don't like" via the remote. Worked like a champ. Certainly not as fast as if I'd been at the keyboard of the server, but lag for each highlight/tag don't like/scroll down to next list item cycle was under 1 second. Basically it was down to proper line, hit the "don't like" button on the remote and go down to the next line.
I'm wondering if the lag may be coming in because of having to transfer that signal from the remote to the mvp to the client machine to the server and all the way back through before you see it on the screen. For me it's remote/mvp/client-server machine and then back again. Skipping that one possible intermediate machine for those running the client software on a 2nd machine.

Also, on my server machine the live guide is MUCH slower than it was in 2.x. I don't know how much of that is whatever changed in the 3.x beta and my setting up channel logos, expanding the lookahead to 7 days, making more guide channels show on each screen and the time window larger on each screen in the guide at the same time that I installed the 3.x beta.

Oh, and at present I'm also running the stock STV and the "secret extras" left off.

Now I do have one problem that only has a minimal effect on me. Live TV doesn't work on the MVP. I only get about 2-3 seconds and then it freezes the audio/video. The only time I want that is when I'm tuning the individual recorders (running 2 pvr-500 dual tuners) to set color/brightness, etc.
I'm pretty sure that's something to do with the decoder I'm using. Not sure why, but when I went from 2.2x to the 3.x beta I lost eveyrthing but the default Sage decoder. Previously I had a choice of 3 or 4.
One of these days I'll dig into that to find out why.

[nox71]

Originally Posted by Matt

If you skip to the begining, does it have the same sound problems again or is this really just for live TV start and channel changes? If it's the latter, do you see the CPU go high on channel changes? If yes, which process?

-Matt

If i skip to the begenning i don't have the issue the sound is ok.
The service SageTV often go high in cpu utilization and it seem to be every time i change channel.

[nox71]

I solved my problem it was an ethernet issue, i had to configure the nic on my sagetv server to 100-half duplex and now it works just fine.

Thanks again Matt for the good product !

[h8dk97]

On hauppage website they say media mvp now supports DivX and MP3. http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/produ..._mediamvp.html

Will the plugin support playing DivX and MP3 sa well?

[dagar]

It plays my MP3 just fine in Sage DivX? Dunno, I don't DivX

[ToonGal]

Hi Matt!

Long-time SageTV user, new MVP owner. Just configured it today and think it's swell. Got it for $55 at CC, and researched 3 more at a nearby RS today for $40/ea. The way things are going, I'm probably headed there tomorrow. Anyway, here's some feedback on the experience, comments and questions thrown in.

Between the SageTV core, Cayars' STV, Nielm's webserver, and now your MVP, TV has never looked better over here. Great stuff hun! Thanks for any help you can give.

1) Installation:
Instructions a little vague on how to "set it up in a different directory" given it puts it in SageTV by default. Recommendation - move SageTV directory to SageTV.save, install to SageTV, rename to MVP#, restore SageTV.save. Other than that, easy as pie to get hooked up quickly.

2) Remote control:
Blech. This was a nightmare, because I didn't like the original mappings as installed. I figured it out and published the codes for others to use here - http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...39&postcount=9. Don't know if you want to add it to your documentation, but it can't hurt. Question - Are the codes I documented from the MVP or from you? If the latter, I'd highly recommend some sort of configuration file, so end users can extend it if they have more keys on other remotes. Personally, I like JP1 remotes, and would LOVE to get all the keys I have available. For now, the 45 button one is just fine.

3) Centering:
Simply put, it isn't. The right 10% (est.) is cut off from my TV. If I had to guess, it's probably something in my MVP SageClient.properties configuration. I'd even guess it is the osd_rendering_height/width ones, but don't want to waste time guessing / experimenting if it is an easy fix with the knowledge.

4) Playback:
Good news, bad news. First of all, MAN is this thing fast on playback of live TV. I was amazed at how fast it played with little latency. The bad news is that when I selected a pre-recorded file, it seemed to 'stick'. No better way to describe it, but either it has to load the entire file locally (or at least buffer it) or there's some problem. Hitting remote FF/Rew seemed to kick it in gear, but wondering if this is a known issue or just my issue.

5) Preview window:
My server config is 3.2Ghz, Win2K, SageTV v2.2.8, Cayars STV v17. Cayars has a 'preview' window available on most menu windows. While the audio/video is playing, the window doesn't show the full video miniaturized, but rather the small segment of the full screen in place. MVP issue, never programmed, not possible, or my configuration?

6) DivX:
CC had two MVPs left. I only bought the one that had "DivX & Internet Radio", because I do a lot of DivX encoding. I too am curious if this is something that currently IS supported by your plugin. If no, CAN it be done via SageTV? If so, WILL it be done at some point, such that I should only buy DivX enabled ones? I don't know if this is a firmware issue, as SHS's board didn't seem to have anything to update it with. I have a model "D3", and see that most seem to have that one. Should I hold out for D3 or better at Radio Shack tomorrow?