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Old 12-17-2004, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ToonGal
but missing is the EPG update info. This is relevant because my alma mater (UC Berkeley, go Cal!) is playing a major college football bowl game on 12/30, 8pm.
On the 'Home' screen, it should show:
Quote:
Program Guide:
Last EPG Update: 16-Dec-2004 15:03:09
Next EPG Update In: 4.51hrs
What more information do you need?
(at the worst, you can always schedule a timed recording, but be warned: the months are offset by one!)

I have not actually stopped doing STV stuff, just there is not a great deal that I personally need, I have been too busy in real work to get anthing done (which is also why the bugfix release of webserver 1.2 has not yet been finished)...

Good trip!
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Old 12-17-2004, 03:45 AM
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I'm wondering because my client machine is hooked up to my stereo, and I would like to be able to play music on it, but not have to turn on the TV
no music in the webserver...

A workaround could be to run something like a VNC variant on the client, and a VNC client on the PDA to remotely operate the Sage interface...
(http://www.allware.com.mx/ has one for an IPAQ)
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Old 12-17-2004, 04:04 AM
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For the next release, I would like to improve on the way that the Sage Recordings and Search page deal with grouped items: It is not immediatly clear that something is in a group, and it is not immediatley obvious how to close a group
A couple of ideas are:
Enclosed box:
Code:
+-----------------------------------------------+
| Show Title                        [folder]    |
| +---------------------------------------------+
+ | Episode                [time/date] [channel]|
| +---------------------------------------------+
| +---------------------------------------------+
+ | Episode                [time/date] [channel]|
| +---------------------------------------------+
| +---------------------------------------------+
+ | Episode                [time/date] [channel]|
| +---------------------------------------------+
------------------------------------------------+
or Tree-like:
Code:
+-----------------------------------------------+
| Show Title                        [folder]    |
+-----------------------------------------------+
|   +-------------------------------------------+
+-> | Episode              [time/date] [channel]|
|   +-------------------------------------------+
|   +-------------------------------------------+
+-> | Episode              [time/date] [channel]|
|   +-------------------------------------------+
|   +-------------------------------------------+
+-> | Episode              [time/date] [channel]|
    +-------------------------------------------+
Any other suggestions?
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Old 12-17-2004, 09:02 AM
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I'd vote for the tree-like expansion. It's intuitive and we're used to that layout (Win Explorer etc.).

Andy.
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Old 12-17-2004, 09:18 AM
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On the 'Home' screen, it should show...What more information do you need?
Nothing. I didn't see it because you tried to hide it from me by placing it on the opening page, where it was everpresent and painfully obvious...

I vote for the explorer view as well. Put a graphic in front of the title to signify "episode" vs. "set of episodes". I'd recommend a file/folder graphic or a blank/plus graphic if you want to go windows explorer.

Tell the boss that this is the holiday season. Take some time off for yourself too, hun!

Happy holidays all. See you next year, gang! (...unless I try to upgrade via VNC from my sister's...)
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:06 AM
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tree for me too I think

Chris
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Old 12-17-2004, 11:39 AM
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OK - I need some help getting this set up.

I have installed all components as required, and can get to the webserver using 'http://localhost:8080/sage/home'. Mt problem is getting to it over the web. I have checked port 8080 using grc.com, which tells me that port 8080 is in 'stealth' mode. I'm guessing that this is the problem.

I use a Netgear DG834G ADSL router, but I'm not sure that I have this set up correctly to open port 8080.

Oh - I have also given myself an IP name using no-ip.com

I'm really sorry to lay what is probably pretty simple stuff on you, but I just can't get any further at the moment.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:12 PM
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Try setting you sage machine as a DMZ host and see if it works. If it does, then it is definitely a problem with you router not having the port setup correctly.

Don't leave the machine as a DMZ, just a quick test.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:16 PM
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"I'm sorry dave, I cannot do that" -quote HAL

How would I do that? As I say, I'm useless with networking!!?!?!?!
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:27 PM
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In your router you should be able to setup a DMZ host. It should be there somewhere around the port forwarding portion.

If you have found the local ip address for your server, which I assume you did so that you could forward port 8080 there, just put it in for the DMZ host. This essentially places your web server on the other side of the router. It will now be exposed for attacks from the internet. This is OK for a quick test, just don't leave it that way

If this works, then you know the <hostname>.no-ip.com portion works, and that you web server is working. This means your port forwarding is broken. If it does not work, then it may be that you no-ip.com is not setup correctly.

hope this helps,
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:52 PM
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I just found out that the XP firewall was on in the background of my HTPC! doh. This is now off and grc.com is indicating that port 8080 is now open. hurrah!
I still can't get to the sage page though. I tried setting up the DMZ host thing, but it didn't seem to make a difference.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:55 PM
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Sounds like you <hostname>.no-ip.com name is not working. Check that it is set to forward to the correct IP address. This is the one you modem has. It won't be a 192.168.*.* one.

I just tried this on my system. Go to your router and get the ip address.

Take that and use your browser to open:
http://your.ip.address:8080/sage/Home

It should prompt for you password.

If this works, then it is a no-ip.com problem.

Last edited by lovingHDTV; 12-17-2004 at 12:58 PM.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:58 PM
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If I type in my host name <hostname>.no-ip.com, it takes me to my ADSL router setup info page. Is this correct?
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:00 PM
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mine does not.

for another test check me previous post, I edited it after you posted
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:05 PM
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I just checked that - I get this error message using mozilla:

'the connection was refused when attempting to connect to <myipaddress>:8080'
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:07 PM
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If I type in my host name <hostname>.no-ip.com, it takes me to my ADSL router setup info page. Is this correct?

Your router is possibly using 8080 for remote administration. If this is the case you can move the webserver to another port by setting it in the properties file.

In sage.properties set:

nielm/webserver/port=8443

8443 is what I am using for SSL access but you could try 8088 or another, otherwise unused port.

You have to stop the SageTV service to effect the change, or the application if you are not using the service mode for Sage.

Hope this helps,

Lynn
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:11 PM
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I actually changed my router admin port from 8080 to 8084, so I'm guessing that this isn't the problem.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:17 PM
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Out of curiosity I just tried accessing the remote management feature of my router (http://<myipaddress>:8084) and I get the same message in Firefox (the connection was refused when attempting to connect to <myipaddress>:8084)
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:21 PM
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If I type in my host name <hostname>.no-ip.com, it takes me to my ADSL router setup info page. Is this correct?
Sounds like one of those flakey LinkSys routers. I have one that is stupid like that also. From the LAN side if you type that in it will try to connect to its setup page (even if that is disabled for the Internet side). Yet, from the outside (Internet) it won't.

My D-Link doesn't have that odd behaviour from the LAN side.

You also have to open up the appropriate port thru the router for access from the outside. Then you'll have to include the port number in the URL like this:
<hostname>.no-ip.com:8080
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:24 PM
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try using the anonymizer proxy to connect (see the instructions) -- this accurately tests an incomming connection from the internet...

If GRC is reporting that the port is open, most likely you are port forwarding correctly.

(trying to connect to your external IP address from your internal network can cause interesting results using some NAT routers)

Last edited by nielm; 12-17-2004 at 01:32 PM.
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