Resolution / Screen Metrics

[Kanati]

ummmmm... yes. Definitely because I had to reboot a few times.

The video card recognized that I had a dvi cable plugged in because it no longer showed the post screen on the tv. With just the svideo plugged in, the post screen shows on the tv. Without the tv shows nothing until the windows drivers load up and gets to the desktop.

I just spent all kinds of useless time running about like an idiot. Bought a geforcefx5200 and before I got home opened it to find it didn't have a dvi port. I didn't think they MADE fx cards without a dvi port. So I took that back and ran to a different place where I picked up a geforce mx4400 with dvi port... only to realize as I'm driving away that the dvi port I saw on the back of that card was DVI-D only... unlike the DVI-I port on the geforce3 card already in the machine... The dvi-i cable won't fit that. So now I have to take THAT back. OR take back the dvi-i cable and get a dvi-d cable.

Brain. Hurts. A lot.

[Kanati]

I DID still have the svideo plugged in... That might have been my problem but I was at lunch at the time and had to get back to work. So I'll run home tonight between gaming and going to the midnight showing of star wars... And see if that works.

[stanger89]

DVI-D is what you want anyway FWIW.

[Kanati]

Yeah... but it's my understanding that DVI-I covers both bases as long as both are the same... I just didn't think about the extra pins on the cable until too late.

[Grey_Goose]

will that be a better card than a 9800 pro? i can't seem to get 1776x1000i w/ my 9800 pro on my 65" toshiba...

[Kanati]

try 1920x1080... The 9800 pro is a very good card and should work fine.

I bought a radeon 9250 and it booted right up on the tv. Sage is now running at 1920x1080 (1080i) on my mitsu.

[Grey_Goose]

1920X1080 gave me a lot of flicker, even at different refresh rates...
1776X1000 gives me a bit of an overscan problem...

not sure what to do...

stanger, are you upconverting w/ ffdshow? what other filters do you apply?

[stanger89]

Nope, nVidia's finest with DXVA enabled, Smart DI control, and Pixel Adaptive DI.

[Kanati]

1920X1080 gave me a lot of flicker, even at different refresh rates...

I had the same problem with flicker when I first set the 1920x1080... There's a setting in the control panel for the radeon that fixed that but I'll be damned if I can remember what that was. We're talking about TONS of flicker right? Like you could see the windows flickering in and out of existance almost? If so, there IS a settings that will work. I keep thinking what I told it was to enable interlace... after all that's what the i in 1080i is.

[stanger89]

HDTVs have a VERY limited set of timings they accept, generally only:
15.75 kHz
31.5 kHz
33.75 kHz
with a very few (CRTs) supporting 45kHz

That would be 480i, 480p, 1080i (540p) and a few 720p.

Anything other than those and you either won't get a picture or it will be unuseable. You need to make sure that you're running 1920x1080i and not 1080p, usually that means 30Hz not 60Hz.

[Kanati]

Wonder why it is that 720p isn't supported on a lot of sets... With my WS65613 I have 480i, 480p and 1080i and that's it. And it appears that's pretty common. (That you over on the AVS forum stanger? )

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by Kanati

Wonder why it is that 720p isn't supported on a lot of sets... With my WS65613 I have 480i, 480p and 1080i and that's it.

Look at the scan rates I posted, 720p has a much higher scan rate than 1080i, almost 50% higher, and higher scan rate == more money.

And it appears that's pretty common. (That you over on the AVS forum stanger? )

Yup.

[Grey_Goose]

ended up doing 1776x1000. my toshiba makes great pictures look amazing & poor pictures look terrible... and at 1080 a lot of my so-so cable channels look pretty pixelated, but much better at 1000 -- and dvds still look top notch