Utility: ShowAnalyzer Beta

[samson]

does anyone have any success with live detection with Cayars18TestE_import.stv sa runs on the show but Nothing shows in the time bar is there somthing I have to change in the setup of the stv to get it to show while watching

[geogecko]

Oh, also, thread priority is set to "lowest" if that matters...

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by geogecko

Nothing checked for webserver. Box is blank, and all options are grayed out.

I got nothing. Can you check to see if the txt is being written to during the recording or is it not until the recording is over that the txt is writting? Is it being updated?

Jere

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by samson

does anyone have any success with live detection with Cayars18TestE_import.stv sa runs on the show but Nothing shows in the time bar is there somthing I have to change in the setup of the stv to get it to show while watching

There really needs to be "shrugs shoulders" emoticon for situations like this, 'cause :shrugs shoulders:

Jere

[ajuhawk]

Originally Posted by samson

does anyone have any success with live detection with Cayars18TestE_import.stv sa runs on the show but Nothing shows in the time bar is there somthing I have to change in the setup of the stv to get it to show while watching

I don't believe it will work for having "live" updates of commercial detection. Cayar's commercial detection .txt file read was done before we had SA that could keep up with a show as it was recorded, as such there was no need to continuously poll the .txt file to check if more commercials had been detected or not.

There is one work around, which isn't very good - if you stop and start the show or pull up the main menu it sometimes forces a read from the .txt file.

My advise - get one of the other STVs and use the commercial detect import that neilm released.

[geogecko]

Originally Posted by Jere_Jones

I got nothing. Can you check to see if the txt is being written to during the recording or is it not until the recording is over that the txt is writting? Is it being updated?

Jere

Interesting. I've been through 2 commercial breaks on a currently playing show, and have yet to see a .txt file appear for the show being recorded...

Maybe I need to reinstall DirMon and SA?

EDIT.

Not sure what's going on. The show finished, and it's been two time periods where it's checked to see if there is an unprocessed show, and finds nothing.

I think I'll have to restart the computer, because it normally does find shows that are finished.

[InTheFlow]

Is there a way to have SA output the comskip files to a directory other than the one that the mpeg files are in?

Thanks.

[InTheFlow]

BTW, I just upgraded to version .10 from .8...I had an issue with one mpeg not having a comercial segment detected on version .8

So I tested it on ver .10 and noticed an improvement in the detection! It now finds the beginning of the problem segment where before it did not. It does however stop the segment short.

Overall, I'd say there is an improvement on the detection ability.

Great job Jere!

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by InTheFlow

Is there a way to have SA output the comskip files to a directory other than the one that the mpeg files are in?

No.

Jere

[cumak]

Originally Posted by ajuhawk

My advise - get one of the other STVs and use the commercial detect import that neilm released.

Are you referring to Commercial Advance Beta Release, or is there another commercial detect import that has been specifically modified to take advantage of SA's live detection feature?

I am using Cayers18TestE (with everything *finally* set up the way I want it), but I might switch to another STV to get this feature working.

[jblust]

I've got a question about how the "DoNotProcess" is supposed to work. I've got SA set up to DoNotProcess a certain range of channels because they're from my firewire tuner and the files cause SA to choke (they're TS files with an MPG extension). When DirMon runs SA to process one of these files, I see the tray icon appear and disappear, but since SA doesn't spit out an empty .txt file, DirMon tries to process the same file again and again.

When SA sees a file is indicated as DoNotProcess, shouldn't it spit out an empty file to indicate that it shouldn't be looked at again? I turned on level 1 logging to see if it was correctly recognizing that it shouldn't be processed, but I don't get a log file either. I'm using 0.5.10.

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by jblust

When SA sees a file is indicated as DoNotProcess, shouldn't it spit out an empty file to indicate that it shouldn't be looked at again? I turned on level 1 logging to see if it was correctly recognizing that it shouldn't be processed, but I don't get a log file either. I'm using 0.5.10.

Yes it should. I'll look into it.

Jere

[ajuhawk]

Originally Posted by cumak

Are you referring to Commercial Advance Beta Release, or is there another commercial detect import that has been specifically modified to take advantage of SA's live detection feature?

I am using Cayers18TestE (with everything *finally* set up the way I want it), but I might switch to another STV to get this feature working.

I'm not sure if that one works specifically, you'd have to check with malore - I "think" he updated it, but I've not used it recently.

The one I've used, since I switched to v3 of sage, is found here and works really well with Sage v3 Beta 3.07. I also know that most of the new v3 STV's have this feature included. I'm not sure about v2 though, you'd have to check around with people more knowledgable then myself.

[Stuntman]

Is it just me? While watching last nights "Lost" I noticed that the commercials were being cut correctly, but the timing of the cuts was off a bit... I would see about 5 seonds of commercials before the show would cut, then it would return about 5 seconds into the show from commercial break. I am running this using the MVP, SageMC16x9 and ToxMox's Comskip...

Thanks!

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by Stuntman

Is it just me? While watching last nights "Lost" I noticed that the commercials were being cut correctly, but the timing of the cuts was off a bit... I would see about 5 seonds of commercials before the show would cut, then it would return about 5 seconds into the show from commercial break. I am running this using the MVP, SageMC16x9 and ToxMox's Comskip...

Thanks!

There is always some degree of descrepancy between what windows reports as the time and the "real" time. If it is consistant, you can use the padding options to counteract it. Although 5 seconds is excessive for that. 1 or 2 seconds is about the norm.

Jere

[cumak]

Speaking of "Lost", I had a problem with that episode where SA detected the start of the commercials properly but did not detect the end of any of them. Did anyone else have this problem?

Admittedly, I have not tweaked any of the settings yet so I should do some experimenting on my own. The default settings seem to work well on other shows, though.

[jblust]

Jere, any ideas why SA is crashing silently and not creating an empty .txt file when it loads my "DoNotProcess" mpg/ts files? Does SA try to open the file before it checks the webserver for the channel #? That could be the reason why it's bombing. These are ts files with a .mpg extension, which SA obviously doesn't do well with. Maybe it's not properly recognizing the channel #'s to ignore for my digital channels? It doesn't spit out a log, so I can't give you any more info than that.

[Jere_Jones]

Originally Posted by jblust

Jere, any ideas why SA is crashing silently and not creating an empty .txt file when it loads my "DoNotProcess" mpg/ts files? Does SA try to open the file before it checks the webserver for the channel #? That could be the reason why it's bombing. These are ts files with a .mpg extension, which SA obviously doesn't do well with. Maybe it's not properly recognizing the channel #'s to ignore for my digital channels? It doesn't spit out a log, so I can't give you any more info than that.

Before SA tries to figure out which settings profile it needs to use, it has to figure out which type of file it is dealing with. When it determines that it can't decode the file (e.g. the file is a transport stream) then it errors out, logs the error and quits. You should see several SADLL*.log files in the SA home directory with elaborating comments.

So the answer to your question is that it is not crashing. It is performing exactly as designed. That design seems to be flawed in your situation. I'm not sure if it would be easier to just write a transport stream demuxer or write in an option to create a txt file on an "unable to decode" error.

Comments?

Jere

[stanger89]

I just recently had the same thing, Dirmon scanning a directory with a TS file in it. And it would just run SA repeatedly several times a second until I removed that dir (didn't need the dir anyway).

While a TS parsing would be ideal, I think simply dropping an empty comskip file would be sufficient.

[jblust]

Originally Posted by stanger89

While a TS parsing would be ideal, I think simply dropping an empty comskip file would be sufficient.

I agree. For the time being, I just have to check it periodically to see if it's stuck on a file, and then I'm creating the empty .txt file manually so it can continue on with the next file. I'd rather just have SA drop an empty file for me though, while I'm waiting for the TS parser