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Old 12-19-2005, 09:21 AM
flavius flavius is offline
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"Analog hole" legislation introduced

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051218-5797.html
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:41 PM
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Don't updrade

The story here is not to upgrade your current system. Hold onto the old stuff as long as you can if this bill ever gets to the floor. That would mean not to update drivers (save the old ones) and such on video cards too. They will be forced to comply maybe.

My main reason for using sagetv is to get around the the drm stuff. If sagetv is ever forced to comply to this law in anyway, I'll switch to a package that does not.

nuff said..
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:42 PM
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The part I'd be most pissed off over, were I an American, is that, hollywood will not stop selling it's wares overseas, and unless the legislation has global impact (Which it never will), it is just a brazen attempt at extorting more more from the wealthy US consumer than the rest of the world.
Think of your Meds Vs Canada/EU, who's paying the bill ?

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(apologies for any offence caused - I've finished for Christmas and am enjoying the seasons red wine ).
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:16 AM
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it is just a brazen attempt at extorting more more from the wealthy US consumer than the rest of the world.
Think of your Meds Vs Canada/EU, who's paying the bill ?
Actually it's not quite the same thing. R&D costs for medicines are huge. Accounting standards require that the cost of R&D be expensed to the domestic country because of this when costs of a product are determined for exported drugs the cost of R&D is excluded. All of the R&D costs are expensed to the drugs sold domestically.

So basically if you had $100 R&D and sold 25 units domestically and 25 units were exported the domestic units would cost $4 per unit more to produce than the ones that were exported. Unfortunately business isn't about what it actually costs to produce something or real cash made. It's all about what is recorded on the books.

BTW sorry for going off topic.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by parkimar
The part I'd be most pissed off over, were I an American, is that, hollywood will not stop selling it's wares overseas, and unless the legislation has global impact (Which it never will), it is just a brazen attempt at extorting more more from the wealthy US consumer than the rest of the world.
Think of your Meds Vs Canada/EU, who's paying the bill ?

Cheers

Mark

(apologies for any offence caused - I've finished for Christmas and am enjoying the seasons red wine ).

actual your paying for the insurance, in case the company gets sued for making a bad batch of pills , Because of your greedy lawyers/heath system & john Doe that takes everyone to court and gets 500 million dollars etc.

thats why its so cheap in Canada/EU etc. we dont have problems like you guys do.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:57 AM
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Blade Wrote :

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Accounting standards require that the cost of R&D be expensed to the domestic country because of this when costs of a product are determined for exported drugs the cost of R&D is excluded.
I didn't know that. - Fair Point.

Motofreak75 wrote :

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actual your paying for the insurance, in case the company gets sued for making a bad batch of pills , Because of your greedy lawyers/heath system & john Doe that takes everyone to court and gets 500 million dollars etc.

thats why its so cheap in Canada/EU etc. we dont have problems like you guys do.
Im English, Im over here on assignment with my work, I guess that's why I was so freaked at the cost of Meds over here, in the UK prescriptions have a fixed cost of 6.25.

I do still think that unless all the DRM stuff goes global, it's just a waste and will be penalising US consumers.

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Old 01-04-2006, 02:57 PM
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Unhappy Analog Hole Legislation the Silver Bullet to Fair Use Rights?

Has anyone seen this. Looks like Big Brother is at it again. Check the link out.

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/1902/is_the_analog



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Old 01-04-2006, 03:13 PM
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Has anyone seen this.
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