15 day trial for linux version ?

rhsmcc · #1 01-04-2006, 10:31 PM

Does the linux version have a 15 day trial? Also would my SATA drives work in linux?

dkardatzke · #2 01-05-2006, 10:02 AM

The Linux version does not include a 15-day trial period at this time. I'll have to leave the other question for someone from our technical team.

dbfresh23 · #3 01-05-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rhsmcc

Also would my SATA drives work in linux?

SATA Hard Drives do work under linux. I've used them with both Suse and Slackware installs.

bcjenkins · #4 01-05-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rhsmcc

Does the linux version have a 15 day trial? Also would my SATA drives work in linux?

As far as SATA goes, it depends on the controller and the configuration. I would recommend buying a hardware based controller (3ware is what I use) Some of the chips integrated on the motherboard don't do so well in RAID configurations. If you are using one disk, you will be fine.

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rhsmcc · #5 01-06-2006, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the info. I have a couple of other questions regarding Linux as well. I’ve never set up a Linux system yet but had looked into it at one time but now think I’ll take the leap. How does Linux share its drives on the network? Would they be shared similar to how they are in a Windows Workgroup? Could you copy files to and from a Linux system from a Windows system? Could you edit jpg, mpg, or mp3 files from a Windows system? And could you rip DVD files on a Windows system to a shared drive on the Linux computer? I’m assuming the answers are probably yes but also not sure on how complicated that gets.

stevech · #6 01-06-2006, 02:32 PM

Linux can use the MS Windows file sharing schemes. So it's transparent to the user/applications.

Having run a 5 or so different main-stream Linux distributions, the one I think stands out as easy for MS Windows people to migrate to, in terms of same look and feel and super simple file sharing, is Fedora. It was the first where networking and file sharing with PCs using NTFS "just worked". I didn't have to do a shell script battle. I might be wary of speed though, as there are a lot of translations happening.

Fedora is a free download - Images of CD or DVDs to burn and use. I have Fedora on a second partition of a drive that runs XP or Fedora using Acronis' DiskDirector OS selector at boot-time.

http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/fedora/

Others I liked but less so include
RedHat (before they change to the Fedora strategy)
Suse

bcjenkins · #7 01-06-2006, 02:37 PM

Just to point out.. Mounting NTFS volumes over the network is different than the volumes being on the same disk or in the same PC. If you have NTFS volumes in the same PC, you will need to use some experimental drivers to access the NTFS partitions.. (Captive NTFS, I think it is called) for write support. In general read is good.

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rhsmcc · #8 01-06-2006, 02:49 PM

How would you rate the Gentoo linux distribution that comes with the Sagetv setup? How easy would it be to set up the Linux Sagetv system also as a file server for a Windows workgroup?

bcjenkins · #9 01-06-2006, 04:23 PM

I don't actually have it, just interested in it like everyone else.. ;-) Having just recently purchased the Sage Server license for windows, I am reluctant to spend the money again until all my Sage issues are worked out.

Setting up windows shares in linux is not too hard if you have everything installed. I have used Gentoo on numerous systems, and it is very flexible although a little daunting at first.

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flavius · #10 01-06-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rhsmcc

How would you rate the Gentoo linux distribution that comes with the Sagetv setup? How easy would it be to set up the Linux Sagetv system also as a file server for a Windows workgroup?

That's simple. You want to take a lot at samba.

outsider · #11 01-09-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dkardatzke

The Linux version does not include a 15-day trial period at this time. I'll have to leave the other question for someone from our technical team.

That seems rather silly... (maybe it's just me)
The whole idea behind the 15 day trial (on the Windows version) is to try it out, and see if you like it, and make sure that your hardware works with the software.

What was the reasoning behind not including a 15 day trial for the linux version?

mikejaner · #12 01-09-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by outsider

What was the reasoning behind not including a 15 day trial for the linux version?

I would think is has to do with the fact that it is an OEM distribution, intented for manufacturers. The fact that they took the time to make a distro complete with Sage and released it to us is a good thing. Plus it's not as feature rich, or fully functional as the Windows person, so it would give the wrong impression to a person who is doing a trial and thinks all of the features offered in the Linux version is all that is availible. A person willing to run a Linux server probably has experience with SageTV for Windows (and Linux, or god help us) , and shouldn't need a trial if they are willing to run it on Linux.

will1105 · #13 01-09-2006, 12:06 PM

After reading Mike's post, I purchased the Linux version. He made a lot of sense. I asked Sage about a Linux version over 2 years ago when I started using Sage for Winblows. So here I go putting my money where my mouth is. I will report on what I find by the end of this week (1/15).

Note: A funny thing...I could not dl the iso using Linux/Mozilla Firefox, I had to use Windows Internet Exploder. Grrrrr..........

Narflex · #14 01-09-2006, 01:43 PM

The biggest problem with a trial is securing it. There's almost no way to do it effectively on Linux. Especially when we're giving you the image to reinstall/upgrade the entire system.

We would like to make a trial available; but don't have plans to at this time due to security reasons.

Narflex · #15 01-09-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by will1105

Note: A funny thing...I could not dl the iso using Linux/Mozilla Firefox, I had to use Windows Internet Exploder. Grrrrr..........

This issue has been fixed now.

heffe2001 · #16 01-09-2006, 03:05 PM

I'm still not 100% sure of why you can't take an existing license for SageTV for windows, and convert it to a Linux OEM version. I would think that it would be about the same as converting a Sage Client license to a MVP license. If you were to do that I'd be on the linux version pretty quickly.

Wheemer · #17 01-09-2006, 09:45 PM

I think that Sage is making the lisencing overly complicated. Server keys should work in any server and client keys should work in any client.

flavius · #18 01-10-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Narflex

The biggest problem with a trial is securing it. There's almost no way to do it effectively on Linux. Especially when we're giving you the image to reinstall/upgrade the entire system.

We would like to make a trial available; but don't have plans to at this time due to security reasons.

As far as linux is concerned, I have been out of the loop for a few years now. But in that market segment MythTV is already there, so, maybe Sage should think rather viral than trial.

I have been running linux for ten years (0.99.13), but I have always had at least one wintel box

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