SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > SageTV Products > SageTV Media Extender
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

SageTV Media Extender Discussion related to any SageTV Media Extender used directly by SageTV. Questions, issues, problems, suggestions, etc. relating to a SageTV supported media extender should be posted here. Use the SageTV HD Theater - Media Player forum for issues related to using an HD Theater while not connected to a SageTV server.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-13-2006, 05:23 AM
JUC's Avatar
JUC JUC is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Vermont, USA
Posts: 1,399
Wireless Extender Capabilities

Hi all, question about the wireless MVP and its capabilities for vobs and divx. I am curious what actually happens now with vobs and divx files when they are played on the MVP. For vobs--does the audio no longer need to be transcoded? And for Divx--is it still transcoding to mpeg on the fly?

The reason I ask is my server currently only has an AthlonXP 2000. I can transcode vobs (audio) without problems. I'm having a sizing issue but that's a whole other story.

The problem is that the processor isn't able to keep up with the Divx transcoding. Its so close--video plays smooth but the audio is jerky and choppy. So-If I the wireless MVP does something different with Divx files that would be a fix for me. I could otherwise upgrade my processor too--but I figure I can get more bang for my buck just buying the wireless MVP and having an extra one for the bedroom. As another option--is there any way to tweak the transcoding settings for divx to possible lessen the strain on my cpu?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
JUC
__________________
Server: Athlon 2000XP; 1GB Kingston Ram; 250GB Seagate; 160GB Seagate; 160GB Western Digital; Lite-on DVD player; Hauppauge Rosyln; Hauppauge PVR-150; ATI AIW 7500; Actisys 200L; running stock v5 .stv


Client: MVP Extender running SageMC
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-13-2006, 06:03 AM
jquinlan jquinlan is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 106
Both still need to be transcoded. The wireless extender does not add any new codec features, just the wireless and digital audio via SPDIF.

Last edited by jquinlan; 06-14-2006 at 06:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-13-2006, 08:08 AM
codacoda codacoda is offline
Sage User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by JUC
Hi all, question about the wireless MVP and its capabilities for vobs and divx. I am curious what actually happens now with vobs and divx files when they are played on the MVP. For vobs--does the audio no longer need to be transcoded? And for Divx--is it still transcoding to mpeg on the fly?
Thanks,
JUC
OK, well, I'm getting mixed results. If I use SlySoft's CloneDVDMobile to create my Divx and VOB files (1:30 Min Average for creation of Divx, and 15 Min Average for creation of VOB passthrough) they play perfectly through the wireless media extender and the CPU Usage is about 40%. (P4, 2GHz, 512 meg ram). I have had no luck getting divx created with GK or FairUse to work. I also can't get Divx files that I download from DL.TV to run. (Actually they run but are very choppy and stop and start). I'm told by Narflex (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18510) that Version 5.1 will support MP4 H.264 & AVC over the MVP.

I'm sold the the SlySoft products. They come with full 21 day trials, and with AnyDVD and CloneDVDMobile I find that I have finally found very quick and reliable method to copy my DVDs to my server for play over Sage through MVP.

Hope this helps.

Brett
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-13-2006, 10:14 AM
JUC's Avatar
JUC JUC is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Vermont, USA
Posts: 1,399
Quote:
Originally Posted by jquinlan
Both still need to be transcoded. The wireless extender does not add any new codec features, just the wireless and digital audio via SPID.

The vob's still need to be transcoded?? I thought that since the wireless version is able to output digital audio that it wouldn't need to transcode the audio anymore?

Does anyone know what the minimum CPU requirements are for transcoding Divx? The hauppauge site has it listed at 2.2Ghz. Anyone running it lower with good results?
THanks,
JUC
__________________
Server: Athlon 2000XP; 1GB Kingston Ram; 250GB Seagate; 160GB Seagate; 160GB Western Digital; Lite-on DVD player; Hauppauge Rosyln; Hauppauge PVR-150; ATI AIW 7500; Actisys 200L; running stock v5 .stv


Client: MVP Extender running SageMC
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-13-2006, 10:39 AM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by JUC
The vob's still need to be transcoded?? I thought that since the wireless version is able to output digital audio that it wouldn't need to transcode the audio anymore?

Does anyone know what the minimum CPU requirements are for transcoding Divx? The hauppauge site has it listed at 2.2Ghz. Anyone running it lower with good results?
THanks,
JUC
For now they need to be transcoded...
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-13-2006, 01:45 PM
dbfresh23's Avatar
dbfresh23 dbfresh23 is offline
Sage Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 894
That wink sounds really nice!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-13-2006, 07:01 PM
hemicuda's Avatar
hemicuda hemicuda is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: north of Chattanooga, Tennessee
Posts: 1,118
Quote:
Originally Posted by JUC
The vob's still need to be transcoded?? I thought that since the wireless version is able to output digital audio that it wouldn't need to transcode the audio anymore?
Output digital audio? Did I miss something? All I can find is that both models have only SVID/RCA connects.
__________________
Server: MS Win7 SP1; FX8350 (H2O cooled); 8GB RAM; Hauppauge HVR-7164 (OTA); HVR-885 (OTA); SageTV 9.1.5.x; 12+TB Sage Storage

Clients: HD300 x2; HD200 x2; Placeshifter

Service: EPB Fiber (1Gb); OTA (we "cut the cord"); Netflix, Hulu, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-14-2006, 04:03 AM
JUC's Avatar
JUC JUC is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Vermont, USA
Posts: 1,399
Quote:
Originally Posted by hemicuda
Output digital audio? Did I miss something? All I can find is that both models have only SVID/RCA connects.
I believe the wireless version also has a digital SPDIF audio output. Ideally, this can be used to pass through AC3 audio from vobs--so no transcoding would be needed (at least I think how it will work).
JUC
__________________
Server: Athlon 2000XP; 1GB Kingston Ram; 250GB Seagate; 160GB Seagate; 160GB Western Digital; Lite-on DVD player; Hauppauge Rosyln; Hauppauge PVR-150; ATI AIW 7500; Actisys 200L; running stock v5 .stv


Client: MVP Extender running SageMC
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-14-2006, 09:01 PM
Deadbolt's Avatar
Deadbolt Deadbolt is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 687
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex
For now they need to be transcoded...
Any chance of being able to rip a DVD to iso and playing it over the MVP?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-15-2006, 08:39 AM
Berg Berg is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex
For now they need to be transcoded...
Please help me - From what I understood, the MVP was a great solution as an extender but could not play DVDs / VOB files without transcoding them (placing a large enough load on the server).

Is that correct ? Does Narflex wink's indicate that the MVPs will eventually be able to play ripped DVDs / VOB files or are we only talking about transcoding digital audio in MPEG files ?

I am playing with the Client, but would love to buy a couple of MVPs if they could play ripped DVD.

TIA.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-15-2006, 11:59 AM
JUC's Avatar
JUC JUC is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Vermont, USA
Posts: 1,399
Right now-we can play vobs in the MVP. It jus has to transcode the audio so it does tax the system. I 'hope' the wink means that eventually, MVP's that have digital audio outputs on them will be able to play back vobs without needing to transcode the AC3 audio. Note-that this will only work if the MVP has a SPDIF output.
JUC
__________________
Server: Athlon 2000XP; 1GB Kingston Ram; 250GB Seagate; 160GB Seagate; 160GB Western Digital; Lite-on DVD player; Hauppauge Rosyln; Hauppauge PVR-150; ATI AIW 7500; Actisys 200L; running stock v5 .stv


Client: MVP Extender running SageMC
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.