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Old 06-22-2006, 12:29 PM
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Channels Limited on DVB-T

I cannot get Sage to tune beyond channel 8 and wondered if anyone else has seen this? If I select channel 9 - 17 from a system boot I get 'no signal' if I select a channel 1 - 8 and then select 9 - 17 I stay on the last channel it was on from 1 - 8 irrespective of selecting any channel 9 upwards, going back down to 1 - 8 works (true for both manually selecting them or from the guide).

This problem originally occured on 4.1.12 when I added a second DVB-T; since then I've removed one DVB-T, re installed Sage, reinstalled the OS and Sage, swopped the DVB-T and upgraded to 5.0.4 (5.0.3 didn't work, no signal on any channel!) all to no avail.(I'm running XP with latest updates, Demedius xmltv and the MCE 31D drivers for the DVB-T)

Ideas gratefully received.
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:24 PM
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Personally, I'd stick with Anders SBDARecorder for DVBT at the moment. I've tried the sage beta support but it crashed, alot! When I have time I'm going to try it again so I can get crash logs back to the developers as DVBT seems to be along way down the priorites list at the moment.

Edit: When I tried the built in DVBT I had to configure the frq file manually, scanning didn't work. Post the transmitter your tuning too and someone might be able to help by posting an frq you can use.

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Old 06-23-2006, 06:57 AM
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Back to SBDARecorder

Out of curiosity I've set up SBDARecorder and yes it works! The down side is I will have to buy a copy of Cyberlink Power Producer just to get a filter, unless anyone knows of another filter I can use?

I guess you're correct in saying support in Sage is not stable enough at present.

A note for anyone else using a Nova-T, ScanChannels doesn't work with the MCE 31D drivers (scan timeout), I've reverted back to MCE 31B.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:13 AM
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No need to purchase, the trial version is all you need.
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Old 06-24-2006, 01:45 AM
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If you want to avoid a large download google for AutoDVRconvert (freeware) which comes with a filter.

This link may work: http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=41
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:07 AM
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I tried SBDARecorder some time ago with the trial version of PowerProducer, but I'm certain at the end of the thirty day trial it stopped working. Should I have seperated out the filter?

I assume I need MpgMux from these packages?
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:40 AM
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I've tried the sage beta support but it crashed, alot!
If people don't support the beta by working out the bugs, it will never be released.

Personally, I use the built-in DVB-T support with great success, very stable and reliable - no crashes since v5 was released. I can't see why anyone would go on using a plugin when native support is available. Having said that, scanning isn't exactly user-friendly yet, and you often need to tweak the frequency file.
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:19 AM
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If people don't support the beta by working out the bugs, it will never be released.

Personally, I use the built-in DVB-T support with great success, very stable and reliable - no crashes since v5 was released. I can't see why anyone would go on using a plugin when native support is available. Having said that, scanning isn't exactly user-friendly yet, and you often need to tweak the frequency file.
The native support crashes in my case, SBDARecorder doesn't. Having failed to record an end of series episode of something for the missus I'm not going to risk switching back until Sage have ironed out some of the issues.

SBDARecorder is also easier to setup for novice users who may not understand how to scan manually, mess around with frq files etc.

When I have time I'm going to setup the native support and cause it to crash (back to back recordings caused the problems) to get logs to Sage. It will be straight back to SBDARecorder though!
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:19 PM
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I moved away from SBDARecorder to native support and have spent a lot of time trying to get it to work. I really do not understand what changed on my system but something did and an eight channel limit is not overly useful. I didn't experience any instability or crashes running native - just the channel problem.

Point taken on the .frq they can be confusing, perhaps there should be a repository for transmitter specific .frq files to assist the newcomer.

For now 5.0.4 is working with more than eight channels, so I'll leave it for a while until I see others posting success with a native configuration and in the meantime I'll take a look at MVPs and other useful additions.
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:05 AM
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I was having problems with my nova-T for ages with native support. I decided to give it another bash recently and it works flawlessly at the moment. I have no idea what has changed - but it's working great!
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:57 AM
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I was having problems with my nova-T for ages with native support. I decided to give it another bash recently and it works flawlessly at the moment. I have no idea what has changed - but it's working great!
Could you try setup some back to back recordings on the same channel please?
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:06 AM
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Interesting that you have it working, so what version of STV are you running with the Nova-t?
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:07 AM
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Interesting that you have it working, so what version of STV are you running with the Nova-t?
Check my sig.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:15 AM
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Ok - not sure what the latest Beta was/is on V4 now, I moved from V4.1.12 because I had the channel issue appear and I'm now running 5.0.4 same problem with the channels. The only thing I haven't changed now is the PC itself so I'll maybe run up a different system and see what happens. It's good to know it can work. Thanks
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:21 AM
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Post your FRQ file!
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:35 AM
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Here's 0.frq

#DVBT channel setup table ver 1.0 Sagetv 5 format
total_channel:17
#bbc1
ch:1 0 0 4165 634166 8 0 1
#bbc2
ch:2 0 0 4229 634166 8 0 1
#itv1
ch:3 0 0 8262 658166 8 0 1
#ch4
ch:4 0 0 8384 658166 8 0 1
#five
ch:5 0 0 12866 682166 8 0 1
#itv2
ch:6 0 0 8325 658166 8 0 1
#itv3
ch:7 0 0 8295 658166 8 0 1
#e4
ch:8 0 0 8448 658166 8 0 1
#more4
ch:9 0 0 8442 658166 8 0 1
#citv
ch:10 0 0 8358 658166 8 0 1
#cbbc
ch:11 0 0 4671 634166 8 0 1
#bbc news 24
ch:12 0 0 4415 634166 8 0 1
#abc1
ch:13 0 0 14208 682166 8 0 1
#301
ch:14 0 0 19456 714166 8 0 1
#302
ch:15 0 0 19520 714166 8 0 1
#cbeebies
ch:16 0 0 16960 714166 8 0 1
#bbc parliament
ch:17 0 0 16768 714166 8 0 1
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:49 AM
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Just an idea, but try setting your total_channel to 50. Interestingly, 17 lines of the channels gives you 8 channels, with the comments included.

If that doesn't work, see if you can preview the problem channels in the channel setup, report back.
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:57 AM
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If it turns out to be that I'll kick myself - I'll let you know
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:07 AM
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If it turns out to be that I'll kick myself - I'll let you know
If it turns out to be that, we should kick Qian...
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:47 AM
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Kicking has duly commenced!

So total_channel is actually a line count, makes sense with hindsight. It's working fine now and in answer to a previous question back to back recording works fine too.

Thank you for your help
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