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If you are using HIP or Girder it shouldn't be too hard for remote mappings. Also, p-dvd *may* support the MCE remote natively. At least that would make sense to me ;-)
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But the bigger problem is the DirectShow infrastructure just isn't quite there yet for HD DVD and/or Blu-ray. Once that's in place, I think things could be a bit different. Quote:
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no it cannot
Mplayer can play unencrypted HD-DVD files. It cannot play AACS-encrypted HD-DVD disks. For that you need a decrypting tool (illegal under DMCA) and some way to get the appropriate AACS keys (which as soon as they are released, will change for new disks) Google for "mplayer aacs hd-dvd" for more info
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If all you care about is that sage can play unencrypted EVO files than that is likely possible now anyways since there are ways to make the files comply to a directshow stream. All you need is a recent version of ffdshow tryouts (or something that can decode a WVC1 stream) , and haali media splitter. Windows media player and Zoom player can see and use it, I see no reason why Sage can't, although I admit I haven't tried.
If anyone wants to see before I get home from work heres a evo trailer. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8EGB8DWJ edit: tried it didn't play it, but thats likely a splitter issue and I don't feel like messing around with it to see if I can get it to work since that trailer is the only .evo file I will likely have for quite some time. it does work in other players however. Last edited by Ryokurin; 07-24-2007 at 09:52 PM. |
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I say leave the legal issues out of the talk. Since Blu-Rays and HD-DVDs can be created ala home videos without encryptions, then SageTV should be allowed to develop a player to play them.
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I'm just wondering now that the format wars appear to be over, if there will be any near-future support for BD discs?
I'm considering buying a BD drive for my PC along with PowerDVD Ultimate; but, it would be nice not to have to get up from the couch to minimize/maximize Sage just to play a BD movie. |
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I'd bet money not. AACS requires a guaranteed secure path from disc to display and there's an $8 Million fine if you break that requirement. Sage would (I think) need a major overhaul to support that level of security.
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Although, I wonder if (and hope) the USB port on the HD100 could be a link in a secure path to deliver BluRay to my TV.
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Really? wow! Apparently knowbody's challanged the idea of fairuse on BD then? I have small children that seem to eat dvd's for breakfast. If I'm not allowed to make a backup copy of my disc--I think I'll just have to skip the idea of HD dvd content all together!
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Again, it's worth noting that Sage plays back DVDs from hard drives now, provided they are not protected by CSS. Being able to do the same thing for BR content not protected by AACS should be completely consistent with the Sage DVD policy, though much more complicated by the nature of the menus and auxiliary content found in BR discs.
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Which is everything on BD because BD requires AACS protection on all pre-recorded discs.
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Now, the massive caveat for that is it looks like Arcsoft Totalmedia Theater installs Dshow navigator filters for HD DVD and BD, though they crash Graphedit whenever I try to place one in a a graph. |
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...and if you happen to use an MCE receiver with either the MCE remote or a Harmony with MCE codes, it's pretty easy as well. Create a menu item with neilm's Dynamic Custimizable Main Menu that launches PowerDVD, press play. When finished, I have Ctrl-X mapped (with an MCE keyboard) to the Exit button and PDVD closes.
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I am with all that sage Sage should be able to play non encrypted Blu Rays as soon as possible just as it can play non encrypted DVDs.
Think about this how many use a CD burner today, and how cool they were a decade ago. Blu Ray is going to do that to DVD burners before long, we just go through too much data now. This is ultimately why Blu Ray won the format wars, it's obvious in the PC world Blu Ray would survive either way. Having both the motion picture and data markets like DVD does helps everyone involved. I don't want to have a 20 disk DVD backup (which doesn't have any video, at all!!! ~100GB) when I could have just 2 Blu Rays (and possibly only 1 half full in the future), commercially nobody does either. The codecs and the menu system is all I care about, I can totally understand Sage not wanting to touch the decryption side. The video formats and java menus however, thats right in Sage's back yard. Also wasn't it kinda demonstrated that ethernet enabled Blu Ray players (most all new ones) can be used as HD extenders? This would be cool enough to offset the fact that the devices only support a single disk at a time. So if the road map goes in this direction I don't really have any problems there either. |
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The problem for Blu-ray (as a storage device) is it's really to mediocre in terms of storage capacity. DVD is plenty big for most most data storage except backup. But Blu-ray isn't even close to big enough for backup needs. I just find it really hard to make a case for BD in terms of data storage, it's just not enough bigger than DVD to be really attractive. Quote:
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As for more modest backups, it's faster, easier, and cheaper to just use a hard drive that's disconnected from the system when not in use. Or for me, I backup my OS to my NAS (when I back it up). Quote:
Frankly I couldn't care less about the menus though, if Sage can handle BD M2TS files, including chapters that would meet 99.9% of my wants for HD playback, and it basically does that now (no chapters though). Quote:
Then there's the licensing fees, Sage would almost certainly have to license the BD-J technology (unless somebody builds an Open Source version). Quote:
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I would say inevitable, I serisouly doubt those guys went through some massive undertaking to run Sage on that player. Whats in it for them? |
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I'm trying to get it working on an extender and I either get hangs, or black screens or one time I got playback, but it was very very jerky, like the extender engine couldn't keep up or server was trying to transcode or something. Thanks
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As for 4 layer Blu-ray, yes they've shown up to 8-layer BD in the lab, but the BD-ROM specs only support 2 layers, so I'd be very surprised if we ever see >2 layer BDs. Quote:
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I've got a BD-sourced TS file that kind of plays on the extender. I need to experiment more to see if the problem is my network/server or the extender itself. But note the "basically", that's there because it's not 100% there yet.
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