HDTV Firewire Support on The Mac - Page 6

guho · #**101** 09-08-2008, 08:33 PM

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Error 'Cannot open file '/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Tennis-USOpenMensFinal-59509-0.ts''

can be addressed if you follow instructions earlier in the thread. This issue occurs when you run SageTV on a Mac. I always ran SageTV on the PC with the firewire encoder on a networked Mac so I never had this problem. It has to do with permissions and access control lists.

I am puzzled about it only working the 1st time. I ran it flawlessly for months using a Mac Mini on a scientific atlanta 4200HD. Please also try it on another mac and please be sure your O/S is up to date (Leopard or Tiger?). If you have access to an Intel mac, pls run it there.

Anyone else out there reading this thread got it to work with a Moto STB? Please provide pointers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryhart

It seems that sage will only change channel once without restarting it.

The first time I get this in terminal:

/Applications/SageTVFirewireNetworkEncoder/SageTVFirewireNetworkEncoder.command; exit
Welcome to Darwin!
jerrys-cubes-power-mac-g4-cube:~ jerry_cu$ /Applications/SageTVFirewireNetworkEncoder/SageTVFirewireNetworkEncoder.command; exit
SageTV Firewire Network Encoder
Copyright (c) 2007 Hugo Lyppens. All rights reserved.
This software is free for personal use only.
Notification controller DCT-6416
Starting SageTVFirewireNetworkEncoder, listening for commands from SageTV.
Received command: VERSION
Response: 2.1

Received command: START DCT6416 Digital TV Tuner|15|2441652774980|/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Tennis-USOpenMensFinal-59509-0.ts|Great
Notification deviceDCT-6416, message type: 3758096641
Response: Error 'Cannot open file '/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Tennis-USOpenMensFinal-59509-0.ts''

Performing stat:/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Tennis-USOpenMensFinal-59509-0.ts

The second time around I get this message in terminal:

Received command: START DCT6416 Digital TV Tuner|16|2441653055230|/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Babar-219008-0.ts|Great
Response: Error 'Could not open device DCT-6416'

Performing stat:/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Babar-219008-0.ts

Ch 15 and 16 are the only two I have enabled in my line up for the moment.

Received command: START DCT6416 Digital TV Tuner|16|2441653055230|/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/Babar-219008-0.ts|Great
Response: Error 'Could not open device DCT-6416'

jerryhart · #**102** 09-13-2008, 06:32 PM

Thanks guho, but I am not making much progress at the moment :-(

I tried to follow karljayne's instructions, and have the following permissions set for the destination folder, according to Sandbox POSIX Info:
Owner: root(0)
Group: everyone(12)
Permissions: drwxrwxrwx

I know very little about terminal, but I believe that this means all users have read, write and execute permissions on that directory. However, I am still getting the following:

Received command: START DCT6416 Digital TV Tuner|15|2442700920678|/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/10520_15_0913_1701-0.ts|Great
Notification deviceDCT-6416, message type: 3758096641
Response: Error 'Cannot open file '/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/10520_15_0913_1701-0.ts''

Performing stat:/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/10520_15_0913_1701-0.ts
Performing stat:/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/10520_15_0913_1701-0.ts
Performing stat:/Users/Shared/SageTV/TV/10520_15_0913_1701-0.ts
Received command: STOP
Response: Error 'Not Recording'

For some reason, my STB only responds once to a channel change request until I restart SageTV (usually), or reboot.

I watched the destination folder while I tried to make this one minute recording, a .ts file appeared in Finder during the minute that the recording should have taken place, but its size stayed at 0KB, and then it disappeared after the recording stopped.

So I am at something of a standstill here. Having gone through the whole thread a couple of times and I see that some people have experimented with Moto boxes. By their absence in recent threads, I assume that they have been successful. Any advice from anyone? Would be most appreciated.

soccerdad · #**103** 10-29-2008, 10:56 PM

Guho,

Cablevision has updated the firmware on the SA4250, and maybe the 4200 also, breaking the firewire channel changing. Are you able to update the firewire encoder to work with the new firmware?

Some coding info here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/list...v/users/355387

-soccerdad

oopsydaisy · #**104** 11-04-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerdad

Guho,

Cablevision has updated the firmware on the SA4250, and maybe the 4200 also, breaking the firewire channel changing. Are you able to update the firewire encoder to work with the new firmware?

Some coding info here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/list...v/users/355387

-soccerdad

I am also having this issue where the channel change no longer works. I am on Cablevision in the Bronx. Neither my 4250, nor my 4200 work anymore.

soccerdad · #**105** 11-04-2008, 11:53 AM

I got my boxes to change channels again. I think Scientific Atlanta went from a non-standard set of commands to the standard. There were two options for the channelchangemethod= line in the config file: "scientific-atlanta" and blank. Set the line like this and channel change should work again:

channelchangemethod=

Guho, any chance of releasing the sourcecode for the firewire network encoder?

oopsydaisy · #**106** 11-04-2008, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerdad

I got my boxes to change channels again. I think Scientific Atlanta went from a non-standard set of commands to the standard. There were two options for the channelchangemethod= line in the config file: "scientific-atlanta" and blank. Set the line like this and channel change should work again:

channelchangemethod=

Guho, any chance of releasing the sourcecode for the firewire network encoder?

Cool. I will try when I get home.

oopsydaisy · #**107** 11-09-2008, 09:13 AM

Worked like a charm. Thanks Soccer.

guho · #**108** 11-25-2008, 10:23 PM

soccerdad: Thanks for figuring this out! If there's a good reason to release the source code I will consider it. SageTV ought to integrate this into the product. Has it been solid and reliable?

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerdad

I got my boxes to change channels again.

soccerdad · #**109** 12-04-2008, 05:53 PM

It's been fairly stable for me lately. Running SageTV, three firewire encoders, one HDHomerun, comchecker, and Windows XP inside VMware for the energy detective (TED).

Once every few weeks I have to reboot, only a couple of those have been because the firewire encoders got confused and started tuning the wrong channels. I'm hoping the stability will increase when the Mac version of the TED software is released, it has been announced for Dec 08. Comchecker works good but running the windows executable of comskip using Darwine on OSX is probably not the best with regards to stability.

Steve247 · #**110** 12-09-2008, 11:49 PM

Hello,
I have a Mac Pro, I D/Led SageTV and SageTV Client. The other night I followed all the instructions to the best of my ability and was not completely successful. SageTV was able to recognize my SA 4250 and see the channels, but I didn't get any picture. Tonight I used App Zapper to get rid of both apps, and the preferences, etc, and started fresh. Now it doesn't even see the 4250, i.e. no video source. Two things; 1. I need to enable Read & Write permissions to save the sage.properties file (I'm logged in as admin) and everytime I open sage.properties it seems to have lost all the mmc encoder lines that I pasted and saved.

Thanks for any help,
Steve

guho · #**111** 12-10-2008, 06:15 PM

I suggest making sure no SageTV processes are active while editing sage.properties. Please go up in this thread to resolve the permission issues as per Karljayne.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve247

Hello,
I have a Mac Pro, I D/Led SageTV and SageTV Client. The other night I followed all the instructions to the best of my ability and was not completely successful. SageTV was able to recognize my SA 4250 and see the channels, but I didn't get any picture. Tonight I used App Zapper to get rid of both apps, and the preferences, etc, and started fresh. Now it doesn't even see the 4250, i.e. no video source. Two things; 1. I need to enable Read & Write permissions to save the sage.properties file (I'm logged in as admin) and everytime I open sage.properties it seems to have lost all the mmc encoder lines that I pasted and saved.

Thanks for any help,
Steve

Steve247 · #**112** 12-14-2008, 12:09 AM

I tried on both my wife's MacBook Pro and my Mac Pro and in both cases SageTV freezes while loading and says "SageTV Service is initializing". This is after of course starting with opening SageTVFirewireNetworkEncoder.command.

Thanks for any help
Steve

Steve247 · #**113** 12-14-2008, 11:40 AM

The log files on both our computers say:
"Sun 12/14 1:00:09.144 Error establishing server connection of:java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused". I have the latest java on my Mac Pro, I didn't upgrade the MacBook Pro.

Steve

Skaught · #**114** 01-04-2009, 06:36 PM

I too had massive issues with the permissions. I found an easy fix.

I added a USB2.0 HDD and set the permissions on it to everyone everything recursive.

I then told Sage to put recordings there restarted the whole show and it is kinda working now.

I was also having big issues with channel changes as I think the bad permissions were glitching out the channel changes somehow.

I still have a pile of testing to do and I have to get my Gyration keyb/mouse/remote working.

HD plays back flawlessly btw. And I am running a Sage Stable release. No need for a beta or anything.

I am on a 1.8ghz mac mini @ 800x600 (My projector's native res)

mbze430 · #**115** 05-24-2009, 08:29 PM

Ok so! I've read from Page 1 to the end. I have done most what is suggested. I can Record and do Live Play back with the AVCVideoCap & AVCBrowser via my MacBook Pro both HD and SD sources

So right now I am trying to get SageTV to play/watch/record locally on my MacBook Pro.

Seems like it's a give and take. Once in awhile I have to turn off my STB or reboot SageTV. When Changing channel sometimes it won't change even though the channel works before.... Is there anyway to stabilize this? Here is my config.txt

portnumber=6969
channelchangemethod=
channelchangedelay=
directoryprefixmap=
poweroffdelay=120000
device=0
maxrecordingbuffers=512

Any suggestions? I can post the SageTV file if needed as well

oopsydaisy · #**116** 08-03-2009, 06:59 PM

Hey, guys. My SA4250HD had been recording fine for a long time then all of a sudden, it stopped recording. I haven't had time until just now to do some investigation. It seems that my mini is now detecting the 4250HD as a 4300! Have any of you seen this and is there a way to get this fixed? Below I have attached the message the firewire encoder gives as it attempts to take control of the box for a recording. I was already seriously considering a mini upgrade, which would give me an excuse to start from scratch. If this is some kind of software that was pushed by Cablevision to prevent recording via firewire, maybe my money would be better spent on a Tivo, or should I get an HDHomerun? I haven't owned a Tivo in about 6 years, about the time I discovered Sage. Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks in advance

Code:

Received command: START SA4250HD Digital TV Tuner|750|2498547577172|/Volumes/SAGE/TV/TrueBlood-ReleaseMe-2143692-2.ts|Great
Response: Error 'Could not open device Explorer(R) 4300'

Performing stat:/Volumes/SAGE/TV/TrueBlood-ReleaseMe-2143692-2.ts
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Received command: STOP
Response: Error 'Not Recording'

oopsydaisy · #**117** 08-25-2009, 12:41 PM

Seriously, no responses in almost a month? This used to be a pretty popular thread. Have people moved on to tuners?

csmcdem · #**118** 08-28-2009, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oopsydaisy

Seriously, no responses in almost a month? This used to be a pretty popular thread. Have people moved on to tuners?

hey i had the same problem. I fixed it by switching to the other firewire port on the 4250hd from cablevison (one to the right) seemed to work for me.

Hope it works for you

oopsydaisy · #**119** 09-08-2009, 05:57 AM

Tried it and it doesn't seem to work. I'm really anxious because some of my favorite shows are starting up soon. Decisions, decisions. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion

oopsydaisy · #**120** 09-16-2009, 06:05 AM

OK, so I've upgraded my mini to a 2009 model with Snow Leopard. Success! I do have a question though. I never attempted to play live tv on my old mini because I knew it couldn't handle HD, but I'd like to on my new one. Tried last night, but came up with "no signal". Would I need an actual tuner to watch live tv in Sage, or should I be able to watch via firewire? Maybe an issue with Snow Leopard? Anyway, thanks again to Guho for this great solution for the mac!

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