Beta 2.0.11 is unusable for me

[Opus4]

Shortly after seeing that my LONG list of recordings is now categorized again (hurray! ), I came to the realization that I may not be able to continue testing this new version (rats! ).

Nearly every time I try to preview or watch a show (on an Xcard), I lose complete remote and keyboard control of SageTV. No remote buttons cause any reaction from SageTV & the keyboard commands do not work either. All I am left with at that point is to click on that X to put Sage to sleep.

Once I awaken it, I then have mouse control of the menus, but no remote or keyboard control. There isn't much you can do with the mouse, since you can't go back to the previous screen, so I have to sing that lullaby and put it to sleep again. After exiting Sage and restarting it, I then have remote & keyboard control... until I again try to watch something.

Since the whole point of Sage is to "watch something", I will have to return to beta 10 unless someone out there has ideas of things to try.

Note: Restarting irremote doesn't solve anything, as Sage is not responding to any key codes. Using only keyboard input doesn't work, sine it doesn't matter whether I start playback via the remote, keyboard, or mouse.

I am going to look for updated Hauppauge 250 & USB2 drivers, but I'll be surprised if that helps, since I don't even need to restart irremote between exiting Sage & restarting it.

Other ideas out there?

- Andy

[Opus4]

I've now cleaned out all the hauppauge stuff & reinstalled/updated drivers & so on for both my 250 & usb2. (What fun that was!) All that has given me a grand result of... no change. Sage still refuses to accept input once playback starts.

The strange thing is: when the preview starts automatically as you go to the list of recordings, it all continues to work. Once in a while, I am able to start a new show & still have it work. Most of the time, Sage stops responding when another show starts playing, though it continues to play on the TV through the xcard.

- Andy

[follower]

Opus4- I installed over beta 10 and am having no problems with the remote.

[White94Cobra]

I occasionally have a total loss of keyboard/remote control as well (I don't have an Xcard). My main control problem is that select sometimes stops working (especially when calibrating the color/brightness settings).

[EJDeHaemer]

I don't have an Xcard but I do loose control on occasion. I am using the happauge remote and an Airboard keyboard and when the remote/keyboard stops working I need to click on the SageTV application to regain focus. Once I click, the remote and keyboard start working again.
Instead of clicking on the X to put sage to sleep, try clicking anywhere else on the application.
--ejd

[Opus4]

Losing application focus is a totally separate issue & usually means (for me at least) that some other application on your machine has done something to steal the focus away from SageTV. Check to see what else you have running.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

- Andy

[insomniac]

I know its probably not relevant, but have you updated your java? Sage has taken a crap on me in the past to where I couldnt troubleshoot anything. The endall fix was to reinstall java (now with newest version) and I was up...

Just stabbing at it here...


I.

Originally posted by Opus4
Losing application focus is a totally separate issue & usually means (for me at least) that some other application on your machine has done something to steal the focus away from SageTV. Check to see what else you have running.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

- Andy

[Opus4]

Originally posted by insomniac
I know its probably not relevant, but have you updated your java?

I didn't mention java, since I figured I beat that one to death -- I made several posts about the need to update java after I found that fixed some issues for me after beta 10 came out. Java updates helped several people with the same issues I was having, so it certainly isn't an irrelevant idea.

I sent more info to Dan, including my log. I don't care if it is some stupid user error... it would be nice to find a solution.

Right now, I seem to be able to regain control if I start watching a recorded show, but once a preview is initiated (as opposed to _only_ "Watch Now"), the loss of control is permanent. Oh, and scheduled recordings are continuing normally.

- Andy

[insomniac]

ouch

Originally posted by Opus4
I didn't mention java, since I figured I beat that one to death -- I made several posts about the need to update java after I found that fixed some issues for me after beta 10 came out. Java updates helped several people with the same issues I was having, so it certainly isn't an irrelevant idea.

I sent more info to Dan, including my log. I don't care if it is some stupid user error... it would be nice to find a solution.

Right now, I seem to be able to regain control if I start watching a recorded show, but once a preview is initiated (as opposed to _only_ "Watch Now"), the loss of control is permanent. Oh, and scheduled recordings are continuing normally.

- Andy

[robogeek]

I can confirm the same loss-of-control problem with the 2.0.11 beta. I noticed it when marking a bunch of scheduled intelligent recordings as 'Don't Like'. After setting a bunch of them as don't like, I eventually lose the ability to use the left arrow to get back to the list of scheduled recordings. However, I can use the Home key to get back to the main menu. The left arrow then seems to work until I get back to the screen where I mark the recording as don't like.

Once this happens, I may lose all keyboard control including the Home key. But I may still be able to use the remote and girder (with SendMessage) to control SageTV, but sometimes I can't even do that. The funny thing is, this happened once and I couldn't even use the Windows key to bring up the Windows Start menu, but I could use Alt-Tab to switch tasks...weird

[gplasky]

Along those same lines I had put the Sage TV client to sleep last night. I brought it up this morning and it was totally unresponsive to Girder. I actually brought Girder up and could see Girder was responding to the remote. Just the Sage TV client wasn't. I quit Sage, retsarted Sage and it started responding again. Also saw some of the same sysmptons robogeek reports. Wasn't doing much other than going into recording schedule, going into a folder, pick a recording and then try to back out. Couldn't back out. Had to hit the Home key and come in the front door.

Gerry

[danward79]

I too have been having this problem. Sage loads then when i select tv guide and try to look around the preview continues but the rest of it locks up.... no keyboard No remote, my cpu usage goes to 100%

Dan

[spacegoat]

I had the same problem this morning. No keyboard or remote response after waking it up. I closed sage and reloaded. At that point I had remote control until a preview video started. I then rebooted and haven't had the problem since... until just now. just after the recording I was watching finished and the recording list came up.

I did upgrade my Java just before that last problem. I've been getting a lot of filter graph errors this evening too.

[falchulk]

I have the same problem. It's defijitely losing focus. Alt+tab brings it right back.

[Opus4]

Originally posted by falchulk
I have the same problem. It's defijitely losing focus. Alt+tab brings it right back.

I'll say it again... I don't believe this thread is about a loss of focus issue. That would be so easy to solve... I have switched to other apps & then come back to Sage to see what would happen. Nothing. If it is a "stupid user" problem, I'm still searching for the mistake... but I'm using this in the same manner I used v1.4 and v2b10.

As I mentioned in a previous post, if you are losing focus & having to Alt-Tab, that might be an issue for you to check to see what other applications might be grabbing focus. If there are none, then perhaps there is some issue with Sage on your machine voluntarily giving up the focus for some reason.

- Andy

[Opus4]

I am continuing to find that as long as I don't select a show in the recording list & start a preview, I don't lose control. I have not yet finished a show to see what happens when it returns to the recording list, as someone mentioned above.

I did notice one line in the log file, after holding down ctrl+i for quite a while to see what the log might list:

Fri 1/30 20:50:16.769 Discarding event evtTime=Fri 1/30 20:49:38.500 when=Fri 1/30 20:50:16.765 minDiff=-106273

The log seems to have this sort of entry whenever a remote button or keyboard key is pressed. SageTV has decided to discard all incoming events?

So... for someone reading this who is not experiencing this problem... do you have log entries like that line? ("Discarding event")

- Andy

[falchulk]

I have nothing else running. I usually run myhtpc and have since sage 1.3. I have had it closed for the purpose of testing. With only sage open it happens when I move a few things to the library ,select like/dont like and press the back/exit button while in the recording info screen. It will hang for a very short time, then you can alt+ tab to it. I can reproduce it 2 out of 5 times. It seems that its the desktop gaining focus. When this happens the pvr rempte reverts to the default section in irremote.ini.

[MarcusInMd]

Sage has lost control here as well. I lose control with the remote it seems only sometimes when I put sage to sleep and then come back in and try to navigate previously recorded shows. The control works fine until I enter this part of the program and then the remote just stops working.

I am using a AllInOne Remote and the USB-UIRT and sageTV is mapping the remote keys (No girder here)


Thanks,
Marcus

[Opus4]

Originally posted by falchulk
It seems that its the desktop gaining focus. When this happens the pvr rempte reverts to the default section in irremote.ini.

Interesting. I've never seen that one. When things are working here, SageTV keeps focus. That's the 'fun' part of PC development... you never know when something that ought to work will go beserk on some other machine.

BTW -- I guess that means you don't have the {mode(SageTV)} command following the command to start SageTV in the [Default] section of irremote.ini? On mine, once you set the mode that way, the remote always sends SageTV-style commands... which could wreak havoc if something else gets focus. Hmmm... come to think of it, I'm not certain that I really need to do a mode switch. Perhaps I'll look into it sometime.

- Andy

[Opus4]

Originally posted by MarcusInMd
Sage has lost control here as well. I lose control with the remote it seems only sometimes when I put sage to sleep and then come back in and try to navigate previously recorded shows. The control works fine until I enter this part of the program and then the remote just stops working.

As I mention above, try to never start a new preview & see what happens. That means never using the mouse to click on a recorded show. Also, when a show is highlighted, never 'select' it -- only show its information screen before starting playback. See if that helps prevent lockouts.

- Andy