Is Sage smart about inputs?

[coppit]

I'd like to have Sage only use my cable box for channels that need decryption. That way my cable box only becomes a bottleneck if I want to watch TV while Sage is recording an encoded channel. Is this possible?

[stanger89]

Sure,

Just connect the cable directly to the RF input and set that up as your first source. Then connect the cable box to the S-Video input and set that up as your second source. Then just make sure to disable any of the analog channels from the digital input.

[coppit]

Now that I've bought Sage, I'm back to reply to your reply.

I can't get this to work with Sage 2.0 B 13. It overwrites my other input configuration with the new one. ???

[andrewswright]

Each source has to have a different set of guide data. For example, I choose Basic cable for th etuner input and Digital cable for my cable box through the composite input. Sage seems to store configuration data based on the guide source.

Andrew

[GbrNole]

actually along those lines i have analog comcast cable and directv both hooked to my pvr 250 (directv hooked via composite and audio in, comcast via rf connector)

it drives me absolutely nuts that i can't have 2 same channels (espn for channel 58 comcast and 206 for directv) tune separately.

i can setup both guides to allow all channels to map but as soon as i enter channel 58 on the remote it will tune to channel 206 on the tv. i assume this is to avoid conflicts but it's annoying non the less.

it's not really a problem right now but come rainy season there are times that i prefer to record from cable over satellite to ensure that i wont lose my show to rain fade.

any ideas here? am i doing something wrong in the setup?

the same problem exists in both 1.4.10 and the 2.0 betas.

[coppit]

Originally posted by andrewswright
Each source has to have a different set of guide data. For example, I choose Basic cable for th etuner input and Digital cable for my cable box through the composite input. Sage seems to store configuration data based on the guide source.

Okay, that's nice to know--it is possible. It seems to me Sage should key the data based on the actual physical input. Or, even better, the actual source (even if it shares an input). Of course the latter would require that Sage do conflict resolution for inputs.

[cmalinowski]

One thing that I have noticed which drives me nuts is that if you are running two tuners, mine happens to be over a network (a 250 in the server, and a 350 on a client), that it does not know that the composite is only hooked to one of the cards. My set top cable box is hooked to the server, and it constantly tries to record the channel on the client. So, I have to purchase another box and hook it to the client. Not a big deal, just annoying.

And I have to get the fix so that I can set the priority of the capture cards... That may help some.

Chris

[stanger89]

That doesn't sound right, are you sure you don't have a composite source setup on the network encoder.

[mlbdude]

Yes, Sage will not try and record off a cable box unless you configure it too. Sounds like you want the standard configuration lots of us run with. 1 tuner with RF 1-90~, same tuner with cable box 91+. 2nd tuner (network) with RF only 1-90. If this is true you should have no problems getting it to work properly without a second cable box.

[insomniac]

Im right there with you. 5 cards total, 4 recording cable 1 recording satellite.

The only thing that I have found to alleviate this issue is to set the merit on the cards so that recording always defaults to the cable tuners first. This way if there is the same channel on both lineups, it will default to cable.

The snag:
If you are say, west....and you receive east lineups as well .....you will default to the satellite lineup (east) long before cable (west).

Hope that helps,

I.

Originally posted by GbrNole
actually along those lines i have analog comcast cable and directv both hooked to my pvr 250 (directv hooked via composite and audio in, comcast via rf connector)

it drives me absolutely nuts that i can't have 2 same channels (espn for channel 58 comcast and 206 for directv) tune separately.

i can setup both guides to allow all channels to map but as soon as i enter channel 58 on the remote it will tune to channel 206 on the tv. i assume this is to avoid conflicts but it's annoying non the less.

it's not really a problem right now but come rainy season there are times that i prefer to record from cable over satellite to ensure that i wont lose my show to rain fade.

any ideas here? am i doing something wrong in the setup?

the same problem exists in both 1.4.10 and the 2.0 betas.

[mlbdude]

Are you guys sure you have those multi-sources configured right? Sage should have no problem detecting if the channel it is tuning to is not only available on that tuner, but also if it needs to use RF or the inputs.

[GbrNole]

can get annoying can't it.

i can understand the reasons why sage would prefer to do this from an intelligent recording standpoint but i never use intelligent recording and rather prefer to manually enter my shows to record and therefore would prefer to be able to access every channel from both sources (this is a single pvr250 mind you) independantly.

i think that if intelligent recording is enabled then sage should act as it does but when disabled all channels should be present and available regardless of repeats.

[kny3twalker]

I found if you do the satellite one first
my analogue cable channels came out ok
but when reversed it went to crap
I only have overlap on a couple channels though and use satellite for those

[stanger89]

Sounds like a bug, might want to submit that.