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Old 07-07-2008, 02:25 PM
ehinkle27 ehinkle27 is offline
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PVR-1600 not tunning video

How do I get the Haugppage PVR-1600 setup to tune HD? I have cox cable as my provider and have the cable plugged into both the analog jack and the digital jack. The analog jack will tune video with know problems, but I have yet to get the digital ATSC jack to tune video. It shows up under sage as a capture device but will not tune anything. I tried using rabbit ears to see if it would pick-up the signals over the air with now success. I also have a kworld HD120 Plus that I can not get to tune any channels as well, it sits for ever trying to detect a channel when trying to configure in sagetv. If anyone can provide some incite into this would be great, I am not familiar with any of the television broadcast methods so it maybe just how I am trying to set it up.

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Old 07-07-2008, 02:48 PM
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How do I get the Haugppage PVR-1600 setup to tune HD? I have cox cable as my provider and have the cable plugged into both the analog jack and the digital jack. The analog jack will tune video with know problems, but I have yet to get the digital ATSC jack to tune video. It shows up under sage as a capture device but will not tune anything. I tried using rabbit ears to see if it would pick-up the signals over the air with now success. I also have a kworld HD120 Plus that I can not get to tune any channels as well, it sits for ever trying to detect a channel when trying to configure in sagetv. If anyone can provide some incite into this would be great, I am not familiar with any of the television broadcast methods so it maybe just how I am trying to set it up.

Thanks.

Well the cox cable is not using ATSC, it would use clear QAM for tuning. I do not own a 1600 so I can not attest to this feature. As far as using those rabbit ears, you may want to do some research (antennaweb.org) to see what kind of antenna you would need to pick up OTA signals in your area. Most likely those cheap rabbit ears won't pick it up.

Someone else can probably give you more pointers to how to get everything setup with your 1600, but I think a little more research is needed to understand how the transmission methods work and what it takes to get them to work.

FYI: OTA HD television can be more difficult to get to work (and less forgiving) than old school SD analog.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:57 PM
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Will you not need to change out your tuners once they switch to digital, I noticed on your profile you are running PVR-500's which are analog tuners?
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:42 PM
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Will you not need to change out your tuners once they switch to digital, I noticed on your profile you are running PVR-500's which are analog tuners?
From what I've read here, in other posts - only the over the air transmission is changing to digital. PVR 500's hooked up to cable will continue to work just fine.

Don't hold me to it for the 1600, but I think you have to have Digital service from your cable company in order for the digital tuner on the 1600 to work (assuming that the cable company uses Clear QAM for its digital non-premium channels.) Anyone that know more, please chime in.

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Old 07-07-2008, 05:17 PM
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Will you not need to change out your tuners once they switch to digital, I noticed on your profile you are running PVR-500's which are analog tuners?
Well my PVR500 has now been regulated to recording from 2 Dish Network 311's, so for that reason it will stay in production. However, my Avermedia will be removed as it is currently being used for Analog OTA.

But as previously stated, only OTA Analog will be dropped. There is a pretty good possibility if you use cable, that your analog tuners will still be available. Further, most likely the only Clear QAM channels on your cable network are the locals and I don't know about Cox, but Mediacom (my old cable company) only required me to be a customer with some sort of cable television in order to get my locals in clear qam.

I wonder if I still have them, now that I only use a cable modem?
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:15 AM
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Well the cox cable is not using ATSC, it would use clear QAM for tuning. I do not own a 1600 so I can not attest to this feature.
nb. It is my understanding that there are a number different versions of the 1600. The only ones that will receive QAM have a model number on the tuner can that ends in either 41 or 21 (I don't feel like going up to the Hauppauge site to get the whole number). AFAIK, there's no way to tell if it will receive QAM without looking at the tuner can on the card.
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:31 PM
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Is their any links to the forms that go over the whole QAM, ATSC information. The 1600 I have has two coax connectors one for the standard analogue and the other for digital ATSC is that the same as QAM?
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