Anyone here use Intelliremote?

[jominor]

It's a remote control app that claims it can control Sage. I came across it while looking through the Apple app store. It has an IPhone/IPod touch app that looks like it would allow me to control Sage through an IPod touch.

Has anyone used it?

[Melloware]

hey jominor,

We have just added a SageTV profile for Intelliremote so now you can control SageTV with your iPhone or iPod touch. The profile needs to be tweaked some more to be SageTV specific but the basic mechanics are there.

You can find the SageTV profile in our profiles.zip file located in our Downloads page.

http://www.melloware.com

[jominor]

Originally Posted by Melloware

hey jominor,

We have just added a SageTV profile for Intelliremote so now you can control SageTV with your iPhone or iPod touch. The profile needs to be tweaked some more to be SageTV specific but the basic mechanics are there.

You can find the SageTV profile in our profiles.zip file located in our Downloads page.

http://www.melloware.com

Outstanding! I'll check it out.

[Jesse]

Hi,

I have not tried Intelliremote, but I do use melloware's Rivermote app to control JRiver media center. If Intelliremote is anything like Rivermote then I am sure it is first rate. My .02.

Jesse

[Melloware]

Originally Posted by Jesse

Hi,

I have not tried Intelliremote, but I do use melloware's Rivermote app to control JRiver media center. If Intelliremote is anything like Rivermote then I am sure it is first rate. My .02.

Jesse

Jesse, Thanks for the props!!!!! Glad you like RiverMote, and hopefully you won't mind doing an AppStore review of it if you haven't already.

[shadeblue.com]

Originally Posted by jominor

Outstanding! I'll check it out.

jominor,

Check out this thread of communication between Melloware and myself.

From post #36 on

It looks like Intelliremote may also soon support control for the SageTV extenders. So if you have and want to control extenders you may want to subscribe to that thread for future updates and possibly get involved as a BETA tester when it becomes available.

[reboot_this]

@ shadeblue or Melloware:

Not sure what's going on with my setup...

I have a headless server and two HD100s on my private LAN.

Per instructions from all over, I have the following installed:

SageTV v6.4.8 (running as a service)
Nielm's Web User Interface
Intelliremote v2.7.2.832 (running trial)
Intelliphone on iPhone (from the Itunes appstore, latest version)

Okay, for now I have the web user interface up and running and I can control the extenders, setup recordings, blahblah. On the Intelliremote side, I can see the profiles changing when I click on the icon in the lower left on the iPhone. I can open notepad on the server and then on the iPhone keypad (under the VLC profile, haven't tried others), I can type and see the results in notepad.

I however do not have any control of the extenders and also continue to get errors (when pressing any of the buttons on the SageTV profile) from Intelliremote saying:

"Error:
Problem with command HTTPGET:
HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized
Please check the AutoIT documentation about this command."

and it just gives me an "OK" button, that after clicking it just closes it.

I have tried port forwarding, shutting down firewall, etc.

Need some advice on the above...

Now for some additional questions

1. Are the buttons in the iPhone Intelliphone prog supposed to change when changing profiles?
....for instance I have shadeblue's SageTV xml profile loaded yet I don't see a way to send the "Aspect Ratio 16x9" command from the iPhone (no button indicates it is tied to the command), all the buttons are the same across all the profiles. this makes no sense to me...

2. On shadeblue's instructions for the SageTV xml profile install to get things working, there's some verbage:
"following quote taken from http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=277"

Originally Posted by shadeblue.com

(User authentication should be disabled in Nielm's Web Server or anonymous access should be permitted for the server computer that is running Intelliremote.)

Not sure how I'm supposed to do this, I've searched high and low for the answer, with no luck.

3. Is there a way the Intelliphone app on the iPhone can "query" for a wifi connection like the Safari app does? right now I have to open Safari for it to reinstate the wfi connection and then open Intelliphone, not real big pain but it will suck to explain it this procedure to my wife.

4. Can I use custom buttons and a custom layout in the Intelliphone app?
I didn't see a way to do this in the Intelliremote app on the server.

5. Is there a screenshot available that has the SageTV xml profile loaded into the Intelliphone app on the iphone?
All the screenshots I ever see are the same one with the same buttons...

Well that's it for now, hope ya'll can help out!

BTW I'm "hours" into this and don't want to give up now... (I waited to post because I kept crossing others' posts about "awesome, got this working in minutes!" and it continued to infuriated me... I didn't want to seem like I was yelling or anything. )


*****@ moderators: please move/merge this post elsewhere if you need to, I just thought this was the appropriate place instead of hijacking shadeblue's remote app thread*****

[Melloware]

No problem, you are 95% of the way there. Let me answer your questions...

1. No the button images are static so they don't change but the functions they execute on the server side do change with each profile. SO when you press a button it always responds with the name of the button that was executed on the server like "Aspect 16x9". Shadeblue has already mapped all the iPhone buttons for you.

2. You need to disable this HTTPS. Its in the Nielm Web Server configuration. I am sure you could ask Shadeblue how to do it. That is why Intelliremote is barking at you "HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized" because you are not authorized. Once you turn HTTPS off in Nielm this will all work fine!!!

3. It should query for WIFI already? When you wake your phone up from sleeping you have to wait until the little cursor in the upper left of your phone changes from 3g/Edge to WIFI before trying to hit Intelliremote. It takes about 1-2 seconds depending on your phone for it to connect to your WIFI network first. So what is happening is you are waking up your phone and immediately pressing Intelliremote button and there is no WIFI connection yet so you get the "Network Access Not Available" error. Try it out....

4. There are no custom buttons on the Intelliphone app. they are static images and custom buttons are planned for a future update. Just not sure how far in the future. The only image that changes is the profile button in the lower left corner of Intelliphone to tell you which profile you are on.

5. See above for explanation.

You are close!!!! Let me know how it goes.

[reboot_this]

Thank you for the reply Melloware (I feel like I'm 95% away from success, and my brain hurts from reading the different instruction sets over and over and over)

It'd be pretty slick if an Intelliphone user could make and use their own button set as well as have them "dynamically" change. For instance, I click the appropriate button to tell SageTV to watch a video on the extender, and the button set changes to an "abbreviated" button set geared more toward watching a video (i.e. play, pause, stop, delete, info, etc.) instead of having all the buttons available at all times. I'm not an application programmer, but I'm sure the above scenario would be a programming nightmare... but here's +1 request for it!

Another reason I am interested in custom buttons is I like to have the buttons tell me what they are, I have a URC MX-900 and love te fact that there is no question as to what each button does cause each one is labeled with text.

I just got back to the house, so I tested you're comment about the iphone needs a second or two to connect to the wifi... It took mine about 10 seconds for the wifi icon to pop up (of course I'm probably not helping it's performance by having 8 pages of apps installed , 9 pages is the limit on the iphone)

I'll wait and see if shadeblue will respond to my last post and yours about the https disable thingy... I looked at all the properties files I could find that were tied to the webserver and never found a "switch", maybe I'll send a PM over.

[shadeblue.com]

@reboot_this

When you install Nielm's web server, by default it enforces authentication requiring a username & password to be provided anytime you open a new browser session to access the SageTV web pages.

What you need to do is to disabled the user authentication in Nielm's webserver so that the API calls from the Intelliremote software can make it through without being obstructed by an authentication challenge.

This change is very simple.

1.) Close SageTV and stop the SageTV service
2.) Open the file: C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\webserver\realms.properties
3.) Comment out the line: SageTV Web Interface=/sage,Sage:Frey
you can do this by placing a "#" character at the beginning of the line:

#SageTV Web Interface=/sage,Sage:Frey

4.) Save the changes to the realms.properties file.
5.) Restart SageTV
6.) Now when you access the Nilems web pages using your web browser, it should not prompt you for a username and password, it should just allow you direct access to the web pages.

That's it! Hope this get it working for you.

Thanks, SB

[reboot_this]

I finally got the Intelliremote and the Intelliphone (iPhone app) working a couple of days ago with the assistance of Melloware and shadeblue (a big thanks to both of you!!!). The last issue was removing the need for a login password on nielm's web server by following step 3 above in shadeblue's post.

Just now posting this (been caught up in other stuff) but wanted to at least put another vote out there for others wondering if these progs work, they do!

I haven't gotten a lot of testing/experience with the progs yet, but look forward to doing so. I will post back here once I have a little more Intelliremote/Intelliphone time under my belt.

[sandor]

Any chance of getting a Macintosh version of Intelliremote? I would love to use my iPhone as a remote for my Mac-based Sage server....

[Melloware]

Originally Posted by sandor

Any chance of getting a Macintosh version of Intelliremote? I would love to use my iPhone as a remote for my Mac-based Sage server....

Unfortunately Intelliremote is heavily tied to the Windows API as I have been a Windows developer since 1996. If I created a Mac version I would think it would be a really watered down version since i just don't know enough about Mac internals and API's.

[sandor]

understandable.

i found a working remote with the keyspan, but being that it is only 17 buttons, it is not ideal (luckily i use a harmony and an audio receiver, so those 17 buttons dont need to do any audio work) but i am still looking for a final solution for remote/ir receiver for Macintosh.... :/

[lcdguy]

Hello melloware,

I just found your app and it looks really cool. I have one suggestion you can either take it into conisderation and throw it out. But i think it would be cool if you could have multiple pages on the remote zone so the buttons are bigger for us with larger hands.

[Melloware]

Originally Posted by lcdguy

Hello melloware,

I just found your app and it looks really cool. I have one suggestion you can either take it into conisderation and throw it out. But i think it would be cool if you could have multiple pages on the remote zone so the buttons are bigger for us with larger hands.

Hey lcdguy!

I totally understand your concern. That is a common request. You know you can turn the phone on its side to landscape mode to get HUGE buttons.

[lcdguy]

ok so i got around to trying this out and this so freaking sweet kudos on the excellent job. One question though in regards to licensing. If i purchase the software does that include the iphone/ipod app asa well as the server or is it 2 seperate purchases. Also another idea that would cool would be the ability to skin the buttons. then you could have customized layouts depending on what your doing.

[Melloware]

Originally Posted by lcdguy

ok so i got around to trying this out and this so freaking sweet kudos on the excellent job. One question though in regards to licensing. If i purchase the software does that include the iphone/ipod app asa well as the server or is it 2 seperate purchases. Also another idea that would cool would be the ability to skin the buttons. then you could have customized layouts depending on what your doing.

The iPhone/iPod App is 100% FREE to customers who buy the PC application. You can literally just download it for free from the iTunes AppStore. And since the server is try before your buy you can actually test your whole setup before purchasing. Once you purchase the PC version the iPHone app is no longer restricted.

The skinning aspect has been suggested by others, unfortunately its a major rewrite of the code and I don't know when I am going to get around to that!

[lcdguy]

ahh ok, well i will be seriously considering this. probably implenting it when i rebuild my HTPC/HD PVR.

[adchang]

Intelliremote is awesome! Thanks Melloware and shadeblue!

I can now control all my extenders through my touch...no more remotes for me!