DVB Enhancer for SageTV

[Whitey]

Originally Posted by Bacon2002

mpogr,

As menstioned I left the card in the STB for a couple of days, put it back in the PC's card reader and it still won't decode the movie channels. It decodes the channels no problem in the original STB so no problem with the card.

I'm not sure what has happened as it used to work with the movie channels and I can't see that I have changed any of the settings, is anyone else having any decoding problems with UK movie channels?

Interestingly it decodes other channels it's just the movie channels that do not work.

For info I am using the Duolabs Smartbee which I think others are also using but with more success.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

My HD Movie channels are working fine. Are the SD movie channels working?

Can you do a manual recording in DVBE4Sage of a HD movie channel?

I use the Duolabs smartbee and NDSCam

Whitey

[Bacon2002]

Whitey,

I can not get SD or HD movies either manually or in service mode, I have also tried NDSCam in DVBViewer with the same results so it's nothing to do with DVBE4SAGE.

Strange because I can get almost all the channels except movies. I am assuming it is something to with NDSCam 0.0.0.7 but I cannot seem to work out what the problem is.

I have tried a couple of NDS cards with a couple of different card readers all with the same results. I get a message in the NDSCam monitor saying I do not have a subscription to the channel?

Next I'll try deleting all the NDSCam stuff and start a fresh and see if I have any luck, interestingly if I but BoxID=0 or the actually BoxID I get the same results but I am sure my BoxID is correct.

Thanks,

[Bacon2002]

Hi,

Just to report, it's all fixed now thanks to some help from Whitey who sent me a fresh copy of NDSCam, mine must have been an old version or had something wrong with it.

Thanks for your help,

David

[cpass]

I have struggled to get DVBE4SAGE working, I have pin pointed exactly what my issue is and wondered if somebody can help.

If I have a fresh install with a Technotrend 3200S card in everything works fine.

Then if I install any other DVBS Tuner, the Technotrend 3200S can no longer record from DVBE4SAGE stating the recording could not be started after 20 seconds, the rest of the log looks as it does when the card is working. Then if I remove all reference of the new tuner cards including in the registry entries, the Technotrend 3200S will start working again. Installing a new tuner must effect an ini file somewhere which then effects DVBE4SAGE

All tests are on FTA channels.

Additional info

After adding a tuner the Technotrend can no longer acquire a signal , unless I scan for channels in Sagetv, then the signal is acquired in DVBE4SAGE (after shutting Sage down)

[cpass]

When ignoring the Technotrend and trying to use the new tuner I get this

2010-06-23 19:11:51.921 Working with MDAPI plugins
2010-06-23 19:11:52.453 #1: Tuner ordinal=1 is excluded by the ordinal
2010-06-23 19:11:52.468 #2: Loading filter "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 A Tuner/Demod" - succeeded!
2010-06-23 19:11:52.468 #2: Tuner Filter Info = "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 A Tuner/Demod"
2010-06-23 19:11:52.484 #2: Loading filter "TBS 6980 DVBS/S2 A AVStream TS Capture" - succeeded!
2010-06-23 19:11:52.484 #2: Loaded our transport stream filter
2010-06-23 19:11:52.484 #2: Added demux filter to the graph
2010-06-23 19:11:52.484 #2: Connected demux to our filter output pin
2010-06-23 19:11:52.500 #2: Using tuning request-based tuning method...
2010-06-23 19:11:52.500 #2: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=10714000, Symbol Rate=22000, Polarization=H, Modulation=Not defined, FEC=5/6
2010-06-23 19:11:52.515 #3: Loading filter "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 B Tuner/Demod" - succeeded!
2010-06-23 19:11:52.515 #3: Tuner Filter Info = "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 B Tuner/Demod"
2010-06-23 19:11:52.531 #3: Loading filter "TBS 6980 DVBS/S2 B AVStream TS Capture" - succeeded!
2010-06-23 19:11:52.531 #3: Loaded our transport stream filter
2010-06-23 19:11:52.531 #3: Added demux filter to the graph
2010-06-23 19:11:52.531 #3: Connected demux to our filter output pin
2010-06-23 19:11:52.531 #3: Using tuning request-based tuning method...
2010-06-23 19:11:52.531 #3: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=10714000, Symbol Rate=22000, Polarization=H, Modulation=Not defined, FEC=5/6
2010-06-23 19:11:52.546 #4: Cannot load tuner device and connect network provider, error 0x00000000
2010-06-23 19:11:52.546 #4: Error: Could not Build the DVB-S BDA filter graph
2010-06-23 19:11:52.562 #5: Cannot load tuner device and connect network provider, error 0x00000000
2010-06-23 19:11:52.562 #5: Error: Could not Build the DVB-S BDA filter graph
2010-06-23 19:12:32.500 #2: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-06-23 19:12:32.500 #2: The tuner failed to acquire the signal
2010-06-23 19:12:32.515 #2: Graph successfully stopped
2010-06-23 19:12:32.531 #3: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-06-23 19:12:32.546 #3: Signal locked, quality=98, strength=73
2010-06-23 19:12:32.546 #3: Graph successfully stopped
2010-06-23 19:12:52.437 Cannot obtain SID number for the channel "101", no recording done!
2010-06-23 19:13:14.078 Cannot obtain SID number for the channel "101", no recording done!
2010-06-23 19:13:51.687 Encoder stopped!

[cpass]

I had a quick read through the source code and there seems to be a fundamental difference between Technotrend cards and other, so I removed the Technotrend altogether and installed the TBS 6980 Dual, now I get the following problem, which seems to be based around a filter not loading

2010-06-24 14:01:27.156 Working with MDAPI plugins
2010-06-24 14:01:27.187 #1: Loading filter "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 A Tuner/Demod" - succeeded!
2010-06-24 14:01:27.187 #1: Tuner Filter Info = "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 A Tuner/Demod"
2010-06-24 14:01:27.203 #1: Loading filter "TBS 6980 DVBS/S2 A AVStream TS Capture" - succeeded!
2010-06-24 14:01:27.203 #1: Loaded our transport stream filter
2010-06-24 14:01:27.203 #1: Added demux filter to the graph
2010-06-24 14:01:27.203 #1: Connected demux to our filter output pin
2010-06-24 14:01:27.218 #1: Using tuning request-based tuning method...
2010-06-24 14:01:27.218 #1: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=10733000, Symbol Rate=22000, Polarization=V, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=5/6
2010-06-24 14:01:27.234 #2: Loading filter "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 B Tuner/Demod" - succeeded!
2010-06-24 14:01:27.234 #2: Tuner Filter Info = "TBS 6980 BDA DVBS/S2 B Tuner/Demod"
2010-06-24 14:01:27.234 #2: Loading filter "TBS 6980 DVBS/S2 B AVStream TS Capture" - succeeded!
2010-06-24 14:01:27.234 #2: Loaded our transport stream filter
2010-06-24 14:01:27.234 #2: Added demux filter to the graph
2010-06-24 14:01:27.250 #2: Connected demux to our filter output pin
2010-06-24 14:01:27.250 #2: Using tuning request-based tuning method...
2010-06-24 14:01:27.250 #2: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=10733000, Symbol Rate=22000, Polarization=V, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=5/6
2010-06-24 14:01:27.250 #3: Tuner ordinal=3 is excluded by the ordinal
2010-06-24 14:01:27.250 #4: Tuner ordinal=4 is excluded by the ordinal
2010-06-24 14:02:07.218 #1: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-06-24 14:02:07.234 #1: Signal locked, quality=98, strength=75
2010-06-24 14:02:07.234 #1: Graph successfully stopped
2010-06-24 14:02:07.250 #2: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-06-24 14:02:07.250 #2: Signal locked, quality=98, strength=73
2010-06-24 14:02:07.265 #2: Graph successfully stopped
2010-06-24 14:02:16.937 Cannot obtain SID number for the channel "101", no recording done!

[Mark SS]

Your log shows tuner ordinal 3/4 are excluded by configuration in the ini file. What tuners are they?

Next up, my transponder configuration for initial discovery differs from yours. Might be worth trying these settings instead:

2010-06-24 11:22:04.718 #5: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=12285000, Symbol Rate=27500, Polarization=V, Modulation=Not defined, FEC=2/3

[cpass]

Originally Posted by Mark SS

Your log shows tuner ordinal 3/4 are excluded by configuration in the ini file. What tuners are they?

Next up, my transponder configuration for initial discovery differs from yours. Might be worth trying these settings instead:

2010-06-24 11:22:04.718 #5: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=12285000, Symbol Rate=27500, Polarization=V, Modulation=Not defined, FEC=2/3

Thanks, I tried that but still no joy, it appears that after reading through the forum that my problem is Windows Home Server, it seems that when you add another tuner it breaks DVBE4SAGE, has anybody got round this problem, or did they move back to XP / W7

[damian.flynn]

Chris,

Post up your .ini file, it does look like the cards are excluded as Mark Suggested. I am running 2 of these cards, but it is on win7 x64.

Home server is based on 2003 and has the dvb components inbuild, but the next version is based on 2008 and you need to hack to get support; I have done this but its never been stable, so i finally replaced the home server install.

BTW - did you get your other issues sorted?

-d

[cpass]

The excluded tuners are DVBT this install works perfectly until a new card is added, something that dvbe4sage reads from for tuner info changes When a new tuner is added to WHS, I think it's time to go W7 64 bit , but I am sure this issue is simple to fix, hence my reason for battling on. I think my wife wants me to give up now

[bobbobbob123]

Hi
I seem to e having all the problems that were discussed in post #162 by john@TurnerUK.
Please can anyone help with further instructions?
Here is my log
2010-06-22 23:23:20.239 DVBE4SAGE Encoder SVN revision 236
2010-06-22 23:23:20.240 Loading configuration info from "C:\Program Files\dvb4sage\dvbe4sage.ini"
=========================================================
Configuration file dump:

[General]
LogLevel=2
NumberOfVirtualTuners=3

[Plugins]
DCWTimeout=5
IsVGCam=0
MaxNumberOfResets=1
ServedCAIDs=
ServedPROVIds=

[Tuning]
LNBSW=11700000
LNBLOF1=9750000
LNBLOF2=10600000
InitialFrequency=10842000
InitialSymbolRate=27500
InitialPolarization=V
InitialModulation=QPSK (DVB-S)
InitialFEC=3/4
DVBS2Tuners=
TSPacketsPerBuffer=1024
NumberOfBuffers=400
TuningTimeout=20
TuningLockTimeout=5
InitialRunningTime=20
UseSidForTuning=0
UseNewTuningMethod=0
ScanAllTransponders=0
ExcludeTuners=
ExcludeTunersMAC=
IncludeTuners=
IncludeTunersMAC=

[Output]
TSPacketsPerOutputBuffer=160000
TSPacketsOutputThreshold=135
DisableWriteBuffering=0

[Encoder]
ListeningPort=6969

[Recording]
PreferredAudioLanguage=eng
PreferredAudioFormat=ac3
PreferredSubtitlesLanguage=eng

[Advanced]
PMTDilutionFactor=1
PATDilutionFactor=1
PMTThreshold=20
PSIMaturityTime=10
MaxECMCacheSize=3000
EnableECMCache=1
ECMCacheAutodeleteChunkSize=300
BouquetName=BSkyB Bouquet 1 - DTH England
PreferSDOverHD=0

End of configuration file dump
=========================================================
2010-06-22 23:23:20.247 Working with MDAPI plugins
2010-06-22 23:23:20.268 #1: Loading filter "TechniSat Mantis DVBS BDA Receiver" - succeeded!
2010-06-22 23:23:20.268 #1: Tuner Filter Info = "TechniSat Mantis DVBS BDA Receiver"
2010-06-22 23:23:20.271 #1: Loading filter "TechniSat Mantis DVBS Caputre BDA Receiver" - succeeded!
2010-06-22 23:23:20.272 #1: Loaded our transport stream filter
2010-06-22 23:23:20.273 #1: Added demux filter to the graph
2010-06-22 23:23:20.273 #1: Connected demux to our filter output pin
2010-06-22 23:23:20.275 #1: Loading filter "BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter" - succeeded!
2010-06-22 23:23:20.275 #1: Device ordinal=1, MAC=00:08:C9:E0:40:B3, name=DVB-DTV 1041A, type=1
2010-06-22 23:23:20.275 #1: Driver Info: Company=TWINHAN, Version=17.21
2010-06-22 23:23:20.276 #1: Using tuning request-based tuning method...
2010-06-22 23:23:23.201 #1: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=10842000, Symbol Rate=27500, Polarization=V, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=3/4
2010-06-22 23:23:43.211 #1: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-06-22 23:23:43.211 #1: The tuner failed to acquire the signal
2010-06-22 23:23:43.227 #1: Graph successfully stopped


i have read the thread from start to finish, tried lots of .ini's But still cant get past the tuner failed to aquire message.
Any help would be very welcome.
Thanks
Bob

[deanm]

Not sure if I had the same problem but think you have to remover the (DVB-S)

Dean

Originally Posted by bobbobbob123

Hi
I seem to e having all the problems that were discussed in post #162 by john@TurnerUK.
Please can anyone help with further instructions?
Here is my log

[jamesdisco]

Hi Chaps

Some help would be appreciated, it seems to find the channels but i cant get a recording.
I'm just trying it with freesat initially, the machine is a homeserver.

20100624211903.txt

[cpass]

It seems that WHS does not work properly with dvbe4sage, tuners seem to acquire a signal but cannot record, or they just cannot acquire a signal . I am now convinced that this is a WHS issue.

You can get it working, but a new tuner install or other changes can stop recordings

[jamesdisco]

Originally Posted by cpass

It seems that WHS does not work properly with dvbe4sage, tuners seem to acquire a signal but cannot record, or they just cannot acquire a signal . I am now convinced that this is a WHS issue.

You can get it working, but a new tuner install or other changes can stop recordings

Thanks for that, i had seen people had had issues with WHS, I think i'll leave it for now then. I dont want to mess with working stable system. It would also have been good to use the sat inputs from the pinnacle 7010ix card as sage doesnt see them.

[bobbobbob123]

Originally Posted by deanm

Not sure if I had the same problem but think you have to remover the (DVB-S)

Dean

Thanks, but i saw this erlier in the thread, and ike that guy, my ini does not have the (DVB-S) .......See below:-


I'm stuck.

I can "untick the option Automatically discover the transponder settings" and get it to record something, but then nothing in sage


Bob



; This is a sample configuration file for dvbe4sage
; There are several categories of settings, for each setting the value here is the default one

General]
LogLevel=2
NumberOfVirtualTuners=6

[Plugins]
DCWTimeout=5
IsVGCam=0
MaxNumberOfResets=1
ServedCAIDs=
ServedPROVIds=

[Tuning]
LNBSW=11700000
LNBLOF1=9750000
LNBLOF2=10600000
InitialFrequency=10729000
InitialSymbolRate=22000
InitialPolarization=V
InitialModulation=QPSK
InitialFEC=5/6
DVBS2Tuners=2
TSPacketsPerBuffer=1024
NumberOfBuffers=400
TuningTimeout=20
TuningLockTimeout=5
InitialRunningTime=20
UseSidForTuning=0
UseNewTuningMethod=0
ScanAllTransponders=0
ExcludeTuners=1
ExcludeTunersMAC=
IncludeTuners=
IncludeTunersMAC=

[Output]
TSPacketsPerOutputBuffer=160000
TSPacketsOutputThreshold=135
DisableWriteBuffering=0

[Encoder]
ListeningPort=6969

[Recording]
PreferredAudioLanguage=eng
PreferredAudioFormat=ac3
PreferredSubtitlesLanguage=eng

[Advanced]
PMTDilutionFactor=1
PATDilutionFactor=1
PMTThreshold=20
PSIMaturityTime=10
MaxECMCacheSize=3000
EnableECMCache=1
ECMCacheAutodeleteChunkSize=300
BouquetName=BSkyB Bouquet 1 - DTH England
PreferSDOverHD=0

[cpass]

If you are running windows Home Server, these are some of the problems you can expect

Firstly 1 tuner works perfectly, everything is good - then

The tuner fails to acquire a signal, you kick it back into life by runnign dvbwviewer or anything that can access the tuner, but then it cannot start a recoding

You try manual frequencies this works, but does not help as Sage needs a channel number and for some reason DVBE4SAGE cannot lock on to one anymore

Reformat the system and all will be fine, until it stops working because you added or changed some hardware, basically WHS does not work with dvbe4sage and it seems to be a problem with dvbe4sage activating the tuner, WHS

If you are not running WHS and are in the UK I will send you my working ini

Hope this helps

[bobbobbob123]

Originally Posted by cpass

If you are running windows Home Server, these are some of the problems you can expect

Firstly 1 tuner works perfectly, everything is good - then

The tuner fails to acquire a signal, you kick it back into life by runnign dvbwviewer or anything that can access the tuner, but then it cannot start a recoding

You try manual frequencies this works, but does not help as Sage needs a channel number and for some reason DVBE4SAGE cannot lock on to one anymore

Reformat the system and all will be fine, until it stops working because you added or changed some hardware, basically WHS does not work with dvbe4sage and it seems to be a problem with dvbe4sage activating the tuner, WHS

If you are not running WHS and are in the UK I will send you my working ini

Hope this helps

Thanks for the help.

I am not running WHS, a new install of Windows 7.

Your ini would be appreciated. ( I am in the UK)

Thanks.

Bob

[willplaice]

my flyccam setup has stopped working.

Can anyone share a Hadu or Acamd config that works ?

many thanks !!!
W.

[Whitey]

I don't think WHS is the issue with DVBE4Sage, I think it's very picky about the type of DVB-S(2) cards that are used. I use 2 TT cards with no issues. I did have 2 FireDTV cards and 1 TT card that worked, but when I added a fourth I got the tuning error. I think sticking to TT cards is the best idea for system compatibility and it's what Michael uses too.

Whitey