cannot play mp4 created by sage with direct show

[blwegrzyn]

In sage.properties I have:
always_use_dshow_player=true

when I try to play sage encoded file which is according to media info:
MPEG-4 (base media)
format, sage gives me an error: (-4,0x0) problem with rendering,
when I try to play same file directly using graphedit , i get an error:
AppName: graphedt.exe AppVer: 9.4.78.0 ModName: clm4splt.ax
ModVer: 1.0.0.4409 Offset: 0000e2e0

it works when i switch to sage player

looks like something related to cyberlink spliter,

also sage console says:
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.762 DShowPlayer createGraph0 called
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.764 DShowPlayer setVideoRendererFilter0({CD8743A1-3736-11D0-9E
69-00C04FD7C15B}) called
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.771 DShowPlayer setTimeshift=0 buffer=0
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.771 Using the default source filter
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.771 NATIVE Loading the source file
[GC 242255K->227508K(249744K), 0.0066039 secs]
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.780 NATIVE RenderSource called
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.782 VideFrame had an error loading the file. It must abort the
file load.
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.784 Tearing down playback graph
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.784 NATIVE Deallocating the CPlayerData object
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.784 NATIVE Exception destroying playback graph
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.817 fav=null
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.817 airing=null
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.817 comautoskip=false
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.869 Creating DirectX9 Texture from nio buffer w=100 h=128
Thu 1/29 16:09:12.872 Creating DirectX9 Texture from nio buffer w=30 h=30
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.735 DShowPlayer setVideoRendererFilter0({CD8743A1-3736-11D0-9E
69-00C04FD7C15B}) called
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.738 DShowPlayer setTimeshift=1 buffer=0
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.739 NATIVE Loading the source file
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.739 NATIVE Setting up the MPEG demux
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.741 VideFrame had an error loading the file. It must abort the
file load.
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.742 Tearing down playback graph
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.742 NATIVE Deallocating the CPlayerData object
Thu 1/29 16:09:15.742 NATIVE Exception destroying playback graph


I have cyberlinkcodecs and CCCP pack installed,

thx

[CollinR]

Might try using ffdshow.

[blwegrzyn]

how do i do that?

[blwegrzyn]

here is my problem,
when trying to play sage file it crashes becasue it tries to use cyber link codec which does not know how to play the file,
is there a way to force H.264 files to be played by cyber link, but sage files to be played by ffdshow?
It looks like the sage file is also h.264 but somehow dirrerent than one that cyberlink can play?
(I dont want to loose the hardware acceleration when playing h.264 files)

[blwegrzyn]

anyone?
is mp4 format in sagetv not a standard?

[Razillian]

The always_usa_direct_blah_blah=true line tells Sage not to use the sage player but instead use direct show. The Sage player supports mp4, but you told Sage not to use it.

So you have to do one of two things, either install a direct show player that supports mp4 (and most likely add a line in the SageClient.Properties file to tell sage what that decoder is), or upgrade to Sage 6.5.8 and under Setup inside Sage there is an option to have sage use the Sage player strictly for mp4.

[blwegrzyn]

i did install mp4 support using the cccp, but because files are in h.264 i wanted to use cyberlink codec for that, but it looks like sage h264 is not supported by cyber link and cyberlink crashed. I could lower the priority of cyberlink codec but then i would be forced to use software to process the stream instead of the hardware acceleration supported by cyberlink codec.
My thinking is that sage h264 is not compatible with the standard?
where do I get 6.58 version? edit ( i found it its beta)

[Razillian]

I thought some people were able to get Sage to use the cyberlink decoders for mpeg-4. I remember threads about it, but I think at the time part of the solution was to use the Haali splitter. Hopefully someone with more experience in this area will chime in.

You can download the 6.5.8 RC (it's still a beta) from this thread:
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39088

There's an option in Detailed Setup to use the Sage Player for mpeg-4. But again I think others have mp4 working with a directx player.

[blwegrzyn]

i was able to get mp4 to be played with cyberlink.
The only problem is that the files recorded by sage in mp4 format are not played by cyberlink codec,

[blwegrzyn]

I upgraded to beta and it looks like that h264 looks different now and it works with cyber link codec:
before it was: (output from mediainfo)

General
Complete name : C:\TEMP_SAGE\filename-1288568-0.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 1.09 GiB
Duration : 1h 47mn
Overall bit rate : 1 461 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 47mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 327 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.128
Stream size : 1 017 MiB (91%)
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00

Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 47mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : channel0
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 98.1 MiB (9%)
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00





after upgrade to beta:

General
Complete name : C:\TEMP_SAGE\filename-1288568-0.1.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 4.13 MiB
Duration : 1mn 0s
Overall bit rate : 576 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 441 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.043
Stream size : 3.16 MiB (77%)
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00

Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 938 KiB (22%)
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00