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Old 03-27-2009, 08:20 PM
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hd200 component video always widescreen?

i have an hd200 hooked up to a regular 4x3 tv via component video. it seems to always force it to 16x9 so everything looks scrunched and the menus, etc are barely readable. is there a way to override this? if i use composite or svideo it looks fine.

edit: actually svideo is scrunched as well. i have display set to 480i and aspect ratio set to 4:3.

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Old 03-27-2009, 09:08 PM
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Are you running the latest beta firmware? It's got a bug that's causing that.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:21 PM
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does that affect svideo as well? i have 2 boxes. on the other one, the svideo output is just fine. on this one, it's stretched. they both have the latest (non-beta) firmware.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:42 AM
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does that affect svideo as well? i have 2 boxes. on the other one, the svideo output is just fine. on this one, it's stretched. they both have the latest (non-beta) firmware.
Did you inadvertently set the wrong aspect ratio in the setup? It is the top option under the Settings menu (can't remember the name off the top of my head).

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Old 03-28-2009, 08:27 AM
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does that affect svideo as well? i have 2 boxes. on the other one, the svideo output is just fine. on this one, it's stretched. they both have the latest (non-beta) firmware.
Maybe you've got something different, it's just the last two beta releases that have had the AR issue. At least as far as I've noticed.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:40 AM
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Did you inadvertently set the wrong aspect ratio in the setup? It is the top option under the Settings menu (can't remember the name off the top of my head).

P.S. I hate being at work on Saturday testing. Grrrrrrr....Especially since this place blocks my placeshifter client!
everything is set up fine. it appears to be a firmware problem that hoses tv's w/ vertical compression

does ssh out work? set up an ssh to your house and stream placeshifter through an ssh tunnel.
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:54 PM
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Along these lines I want the s-video (SD) output to use the 4:3 aspect ratio (for the UI) while the HDMI uses 16:9. Is this possible? What is happening now is that I get black bars on the top and bottom with the SD output which I can get rid of by using a zoom mode on my tv but the OSD from my AVR is then cut off.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:06 PM
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Along these lines I want the s-video (SD) output to use the 4:3 aspect ratio (for the UI) while the HDMI uses 16:9. Is this possible? What is happening now is that I get black bars on the top and bottom with the SD output which I can get rid of by using a zoom mode on my tv but the OSD from my AVR is then cut off.
Then you need to follow the directions here:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...2&postcount=10

and insert the Letterbox mode into the proper properties file.
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:44 AM
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Then you need to follow the directions here:
Thanks, but this would be just for video playback instead of the UI, right (I'm just interested in the menus, etc.)? I guess I'm going to have to manually change a setting anyways depending on which output I'm using at the time?
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:58 AM
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Thanks, but this would be just for video playback instead of the UI, right (I'm just interested in the menus, etc.)? I guess I'm going to have to manually change a setting anyways depending on which output I'm using at the time?
What the Letterbox setting allows you to do is use the extender to zoom into the video rather than the TV. That way the UI is still on the screen as it normally would be.
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Thanks, but this would be just for video playback instead of the UI, right (I'm just interested in the menus, etc.)? I guess I'm going to have to manually change a setting anyways depending on which output I'm using at the time?
Why are you changing outputs?
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:28 AM
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Why are you changing outputs?
I'm not really "changing" outputs - I just have 2 displays and I'm viewing one at-a-time (SD and HD outputs are always active at the same time for the HD200 as you probably know). So, I use s-video for a small LCD when I want to listen music and don't want to turn the bigscreen on (connected via HDMI). So, are you saying the "Letterbox" setting will give me the correct display of the UI menus for s-video output (4:3 without black bars on top and bottom) and will not mess up the 16:9 HDMI output/display? Thanks.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:36 AM
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I'm not really "changing" outputs - I just have 2 displays and I'm viewing one at-a-time (SD and HD outputs are always active at the same time for the HD200 as you probably know). So, I use s-video for a small LCD when I want to listen music and don't want to turn the bigscreen on (connected via HDMI). So, are you saying the "Letterbox" setting will give me the correct display of the UI menus for s-video output (4:3 without black bars) and will not mess up the HDMI output/display? Thanks.
Now that you've described exactly what you're doing I'm not sure. And no, I didn't realize that both the digital and analog outputs worked at the same time, don't have any need for that and don't really care. But... it sounds like there's not a solution for you. I sounds like you could use the Letterbox setting so that you don't have to use the zoom on your TV.

But from what I believe I understand now, as far as the display on the 4:3 screen looking normal if you're not going to be playing video on it... The only way that's going to happen is by manually changing the Aspect Ratio Setting from 16:9 to 4:3 each time you change displays. And you'd have change that setting each time you change displays. I don't think that would be easy to automate at all. Unless you did some custom work, which I haven't the foggiest idea how, you'd have to change the setting manually.

A couple small digital pictures may better explain what you're talking about.
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