Plugin: PlayOn in Online Services (Hulu, Netflix, Amazon VOD, etc.)

[wubdich]

Where did you find version 2.59.3666.62 ? Latest version for download is 2.59.3664 and payon says "You are already running the latest version of PlayOn: 2.59.3664.62" when checking for updates.

[drewg]

Originally Posted by cscherb

Where did you find version 2.59.3666.62 ? Latest version for download is 2.59.3664 and payon says "You are already running the latest version of PlayOn: 2.59.3664.62" when checking for updates.

It is a test patch, emailed to me by their support people when I submitted a ticket and complained about how badly 3664 performs for me.

If you complain, you'll probably get it too. It is a step up from 3664, but nowhere near as good as their old "grab the video directly" method.

Drew

[wubdich]

I'm still getting the error message "no video found" - maybee this was the case even before the changes in hulu. Would be great if someone could give me some tips to solve the issue. Updating to to most up to date versions didn't fixed the porblem.

[chrisc983]

It looks their recent updates are affecting the majority of their customers not just sage users, http://www.playon.tv/forum/help/play...#comment-12537

[drewg]

Originally Posted by chrisc983

It looks their recent updates are affecting the majority of their customers not just sage users, http://www.playon.tv/forum/help/play...#comment-12537

The annoying thing is that I keep going back and forth with their support, asking if the video will play OK in IE, etc. It is like they don't realize they have a problem.. All they need to do is look at their forums

Drew

[wubdich]

It was my fault - I disabled the Hulu channel in PlayON because I thought this is necessary only in the case I want to enter ueraccount and password for Hulu login.

[mkanet]

Does anyone know what/where the problem is. I just recently started getting used to using Hulu in sageTV. Then, all of a sudden, all the hulu videos give me the below error message. Is this going to be a reoccurring issue? I used to think this was the best new addon in a while... but it only as what it can do....

[Peter_h]

Dude, read back a couple of pages and the last 30 or so posts above you. Hulu changed the way they are delivering their feeds thus breaking Playon. Playon has released a patch as well as EP. However, playon is still giving some people problems.

[mkanet]

Right on! Thanks. I haven't been following all the forum threads. I upgraded the latest PlayOnSetup.2.59.3664.exe and UPnP2Podcast_v1_6.zip, rebooted, and now everything for Hulu and Netflix works.

Since Ive gotten both Netflix and Hulu to work, the last part is Amazon VOD. I realize its been in beta for a while. Playon recognizes my login and password and accepts it. On the Amazon On Demand webpage, I can see he list of movies. How does it work? I have never been able to browse any of the movies via this addon... it just says "No video found for UPn..." Am i supposed to buy a movie first using a web browser? What are the known issues with Amazon VOD beta feature? Does it just not work at all at this time? Maybe there's a tweak? I think I should at least be able to see a list of movies. But then, how do you rent them? Anyway, no big deal, the two most important things work for me great. Hopefully, once things mature a bit we wont have to update/tweak so frequently.

Thanks again,
Michael

Originally Posted by Peter_h

Dude, read back a couple of pages and the last 30 or so posts above you. Hulu changed the way they are delivering their feeds thus breaking Playon. Playon has released a patch as well as EP. However, playon is still giving some people problems.

[Peter_h]

You can't blame the recent problems on this plugin or playon not being mature.

Hulu made some major changes to the way it distributed it's content. Playon had to redo a lot of their architecture in response and thus EP had to update his plugin in response.

I think Playon did a great job sending out quick patches and EP was also awesome sending out an update to match. Blame Hulu, they are the evil ones that broke everything.

[JetreL]

Originally Posted by mkanet

Am I supposed to buy a movie first using a web browser? What are the known issues with Amazon VOD beta feature? Does it just not work at all at this time? Maybe there's a tweak?

Yeah you will need to add a video to your queue. There are several that are free to use for testing. Typically what I do is order a movie. Tell it to start playing on my computer and then close the window and go to AmazonVOD in this plugin and watch it from the TV. Works well some of the time. I have had (2) 2-hour movies that died 3/4 of the way through and there isn't a realy easy way to recover.

Originally Posted by Peter_h

You can't blame the recent problems on this plugin or playon not being mature.

I actually do blame PlayOn on changing the uPNP delivery formatting... They are in charge of how that is delivered. I am just thankful that we have such a responsive community and EP! Anyone know of a white-paper for integrating with PlayOn?

[brandypuff]

Could someone please help me to get Playon working from SageTV?

I have the latest version of everything and i can see and watch Hulu, CBS, etc. through Playon from the HD200 in standalone mode. But i keep getting the "No Videos Found" message when viewed through the Online Browser.

When i do a Playon Settings-> Update Feeds, i get:
"No Updates Found -1981-09-15

When i choose: Playon Settings-> Restart PlayOn Server", I get:
"No Vides Found"

How do i go about debugging this?

I installed the update the EP provided the other day and it worked for a day and then stopped.

Thanks.

[mkanet]

Download the latest PlayOnSetup.2.59.3664.exe and install it on your SageTV server; making sure its running with all your respective accounts verified as correct. Upgrade to the latest sageTV server media version. Then, extract the contents of UPnP2Podcast_v1_6.zip into the respective sageTV folders. Next, go to your services (startmenu, Run..., then type services.msc and press ok. Confirm that UPnP Device Host service is set to automatic and started. Then, go to your router and make sure you have uPNP enabled. Finally reboot. After your sageTV server is fully booted with sageTV running, start your HD200 where it detects your sageTV server. That should do it. It sounds like something is just messed up with your upnp somewhere or some software component is out of date. Let us know if/how that helps. I wouldnt skip any of those steps; but that's just me.

Originally Posted by brandypuff

Could someone please help me to get Playon working from SageTV?

I have the latest version of everything and i can see and watch Hulu, CBS, etc. through Playon from the HD200 in standalone mode. But i keep getting the "No Videos Found" message when viewed through the Online Browser.

When i do a Playon Settings-> Update Feeds, i get:
"No Updates Found -1981-09-15

When i choose: Playon Settings-> Restart PlayOn Server", I get:
"No Vides Found"

How do i go about debugging this?

I installed the update the EP provided the other day and it worked for a day and then stopped.

Thanks.

[brandypuff]

Im not sure but i think UPnP2Podcast.exe can't find my Upnp server. Looking at the C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV\UPnP2Podcast.log log file,
i see " ! Error! Couldn't find UPnP Device". Could that be the problem? How do i debug this? HD200 in standalone mode finds it OK.

One more thing, I am hosting Playon on a server that SAGETV is NOT running on since Playon needs a powerful server. This should not matter, right?

Welcome to UPnP2Podcast v1.6!
+ Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV
+ Parameters
- (C:\Program)
- (Files)
- ((x86)\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\OnlineVideos\)
+ Search String: C:\Program
- Looking for UPnP Server: C
! Error! Couldn't find UPnP Device: (C)
<----------------- Feed ------------------>
<rss version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
<title>No Videos Found</title>
<description>UPnP2Podcast v1.6 C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV\STVs\SageTV3\OnlineVideos\</description>
<language>en-us</language>
<itunes:summary>No Videos Found</itunes:summary>
<itunes:subtitle>No Videos Found</itunes:subtitle>
<item>
<title>No Videos Found</title>
<description>No videos found for UPnP search string (C:\Program). Since online videos are constantly being added and removed this could mean that there are just no videos available at this time. (This message is from the UPnP2Podcast Plug-in)</description>
<pubDate>1981-09-15</pubDate>
<itunes:subtitle>No videos found for UPnP search string (C:\Program). Since online videos are constantly being added and removed this could mean that there are just no videos available at this time. (This message is from the UPnP2Podcast Plug-in)</itunes:subtitle>
<itunes:duration>00:46:35</itunes:duration>
<enclosure url="http://127.0.0.1/fake.mpg" length="1668940000" type="video/mpeg2" />
<media:content duration="2795" medium="video" fileSize="1668940000" url="http://127.0.0.1/fake.mpg" type="video/mpeg2">
<media:title>No Videos Found</media:title>
<media:description>No videos found for UPnP search string (C:\Program). Since online videos are constantly being added and removed this could mean that there are just no videos available at this time. (This message is from the UPnP2Podcast Plug-in)</media:description>
<media:thumbnail url="http://127.0.0.1/fake.jpg"/>
</media:content>
</item>
</channel>
</rss>

[mkanet]

I dont know the exact answer, but maybe can give something to keep in mind, in your quote there was an error that said the uPnp server couldnt be found at C:\Program.

Im taking a wild guess bug you might have to the configuration setting from it to \\servername\c$\Program Files (x86)\location of your upnp server and to use quotes around that entire path. This even if UNC's are supported. The quotes will at least take care of the issue with it only seeing "C:\Program" which is another issue all together besides being on wrong machine (presuming local C drive).

I can run my Playon at max video encoding quality and max bandwidth on my 4 year old quad core Intel 2.4GHz PC. Are you sure your sageTV server cant handle it?

Sorry if this doesnt completely give you a direct answer, but I think it should point out a couple of issues that I can see. Maybe someone can confirm?

Originally Posted by brandypuff

Im not sure but i think UPnP2Podcast.exe can't find my Upnp server. Looking at the C:\Program Files (x86)\SageTV\SageTV\UPnP2Podcast.log log file,
i see " ! Error! Couldn't find UPnP Device". Could that be the problem? How do i debug this? HD200 in standalone mode finds it OK.

One more thing, I am hosting Playon on a server that SAGETV is NOT running on since Playon needs a powerful server. This should not matter, right?

[brandypuff]

You could be right. where do i make this config change?

My SageTV server is a Core2 Duo E6600. I was watching a 1.9GB show from Playon and the CPU was 80-90% util and saw some stuttering.
So i moved it to my E8400 Dell and it transcodes fine.

Also, would you know the actual command lines that UPnP2Podcast.exe uses?

[brandypuff]

This plugin does not work..bummer

[sungod]

Originally Posted by brandypuff

This plugin does not work..bummer

The plugin did work before. This week Hulu changed the way they deliver their movies. So everything down the chain had to change as well. I imagine that Hulu is continuing this change and working out bugs they have in their own system. Everyone else has to play catch-up to their changes.

I would expect we will have problems for a week or two until Hulu settles on something solid.

[brandypuff]

It's not just Hulu, it's any of the feeds provided through PlayOn. I suspect
it is the plugin because it works through the Satandalone version of the HD-200. I have tried everything but same error. I tried a fresh install of a PC SageTV client as well as trying it through my HD100 and HD-200 but get the same no videos found message.

I also have noe idea how to hard-code the path of the Upnp server so the the UPnP2Podcast.exe finds it.

The standard (non-Playon) feeds work OK.

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by JetreL

I actually do blame PlayOn on changing the uPNP delivery formatting... They are in charge of how that is delivered.

I actually like PlayON's new formating much better, the old one was pretty poorly organized. You just didn't see it because I reformatted it manually for this Plug-in.