VideoReDo TVSuite Version 4 with H.264 support is now available

[davephan]

VideoReDo TVSuite Version 4 with H.264 support is now available. I did not see it on the main web page yet. I have been using the alpha or beta version for several months. This morning, I became a registered user of the new VideoReDo TVSuite Version 4 with H.264 support. Some people may have seen the upgrade web page last week, where it said the upgrade price was $1,000. That was supposed to be a 'placeholder' for the actual price, which is far less! The upgrade from VideoReDo TVSuite Version 3 was less than $30, including a $2 credit card processing fee. The price might be higher if you own VideoReDo plus (I own both VideoReDo Plus and VideoReDo Suite).

I have been trying VideoReDo TVSuite Version 4 with H.264 support for several months. I also tried other software to edit TS files. VideoReDo TVSuite Version 4 with H.264 support is by far the best choice for editing TS / H.264 files. There are discounts for owners of VideoReDo Plus and TVSuite.

Here 's some information about VideoReDo TVSuite Version 4 with H.264 support (version 4.20.2.594) from their web page:


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What's new in Version 4 with H.264:

This version is designed to seamlessly handle both MPEG2 and H.264 encoded files. H.264 is also called AVC and AVCHD. Technically, we support the following H.264 formats:

Input formats:

* Transport streams with H.264/AVC video with the following audio codecs: MPEG Layer 2, AC-3, AAC and AAC-HE.
* MP4 formatted files with H.264/AVC video with AAC and AAC-HE audio. This includes Apple MOV files, and some camera formats.
* Video dimensions up to 1920x1080p at chroma 4:2:0.
* WTV streams support is preliminary (see below).
* All the traditional MPEG2 formats supported in earlier versions.

Output formats:

* MPEG2, program, transport and dvr-ms streams with MPEG and AC-3 audio.
* H.264 transport streams with MPEG Layer 2 and AAC audio. AC3 and AAC-HE audio is supported if they are present in the source file.
* H.264 .MP4 files with MPEG Layer 2 and AAC audio. AAC-HE audio is suported if present in the source file.
* WMV/VC1 output.
* MPEG-4 Part 2 .mp4 files.
* Elementary streams.
* NTSC closed captioning and DVB subtitling, if present in the source, is preseved in the output file.

Smart editing:

* If source and destination formats have identical formats, dimensions and bit rates, TVSuite V4 will automatically invoke its smart editing feature and not recode your source video except for a few frames at cut points. This is the traditional behavior you expected from VideoReDo in the past.

Output Profiles:

* The output format is determined by a list of file types, called profiles, in the file save box. The product comes with quite a few profiles which can serve as a starting point. You can create your own profiles, exchange profiles with other users using the import and export mechanism. There will be more on profiles in a separate post.

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Dave

[cat6man]

i own videoredo+ but no interest in the suite...........have they announced the h.264 upgrade for + users yet?

[davephan]

Originally Posted by cat6man

i own videoredo+ but no interest in the suite...........have they announced the h.264 upgrade for + users yet?

I don't know the answer if h.264 support will be added to VideoReDo Plus. They did say on their web page that there will be new releases soon of each of these products (VideoReDo Plus and VideoReDo TVSuite) to bring their internal code-base inline with TVSuite V4.

So, I don't know if that means VideoReDo Plus will also have h.264 support or not. I think it's a good question.

I've tested several video editing software packages, none were even close to VideoReDo's ease of use and very functional interface. Most video editing software that has h.264 support is only designed to string small videocam clips together. VideoReDo TVSuite is an excellent choice for editing out commercials and saving into h.264 files. VideoReDo TVSuite also works great for mpeg2 files. Editing h.264 files is a bit more difficult than editing mpeg2 files, probably because the files are compressed more. The h.264 editing is frame accurate, just like mpeg2. There's a 14 day free trial so you can check it out.

Dave

[korben_dallas]

Downloaded, installed, and requested a trial key.

Running good so far on Win 7 x64 Ultimate. Took a 4 hour HD PVR .ts file and chopped out a 4 minute music video. Worked fast.

I'll probably be buying this at the end of the trial assuming it behaves itself.

[cat6man]

Originally Posted by davephan

I don't know the answer if h.264 support will be added to VideoReDo Plus. They did say on their web page that there will be new releases soon of each of these products (VideoReDo Plus and VideoReDo TVSuite) to bring their internal code-base inline with TVSuite V4.

So, I don't know if that means VideoReDo Plus will also have h.264 support or not. I think it's a good question.


Dave

they said in the forum that there would be, but it would not be ready at the same time as suite, which was going to be ready for xmas.....................haven't heard anything since.

[JerryB]

Originally Posted by cat6man

they said in the forum that there would be, but it would not be ready at the same time as suite, which was going to be ready for xmas.....................haven't heard anything since.

I know they previously said this but Dan made the following comment on the VideoRedo Forum this morning "We have no immedate plans to release an H264 Plus version." I guess it depends on his definition of immediate but for now it looks like, if you want H264 capability, you'll need to upgrade to the new H264 compatible TVSuite.

Unfortunately, they've not published the price for this upgrade yet. You only find out the upgrade price by installing the demo for the new version on your computer, in a different directory from the old version so that it doesn't mess up the old version if you decide to revert back. Then, after trying the demo, if you decide that want to purchase it, there is a software routine that checks to see if you have a license for a previous version of VideoReDo and, if so, offers you the appropriate upgrade price.

I do know that the upgrade from VideoReDo TVSuite v3 to v4 (with H264) is approximately $26 and a totally new license for TVSuite v4 is less than $100 so the cost of the upgrade from VideoReDo plus to TVSuite 4 should fall somewhere in between.

[valnar]

I wonder how it cuts H.264 video. Does it recompress the cut part depending where it's at? I hope it doesn't mess up the stream - H.264 wasn't meant to be edited. Pretty cool feat though.

[PLUCKYHD]

I used videO redo back in my wmc days to wrap DVDs in dvrms and it was great for that. So glad I don't have to d that anymore.

Curius though will the new version wrap in wtv format? Would be interesting to try and wrap a blu ray rip in wtv.

[JerryB]

Originally Posted by valnar

I wonder how it cuts H.264 video. Does it recompress the cut part depending where it's at? I hope it doesn't mess up the stream - H.264 wasn't meant to be edited. Pretty cool feat though.

If the output video has the same parameters as the input video, then VideoReDo just recodes/recompresses the minimal amount needed at the location of the cuts to to complete the video.

[valnar]

Originally Posted by JerryB

If the output video has the same parameters as the input video, then VideoReDo just recodes/recompresses the minimal amount needed at the location of the cuts to to complete the video.

Right, but using what parameters? Are they using x264? etc.

[JerryB]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I used videO redo back in my wmc days to wrap DVDs in dvrms and it was great for that. So glad I don't have to d that anymore.

Curius though will the new version wrap in wtv format? Would be interesting to try and wrap a blu ray rip in wtv.

I don't use wtv but I believe there are still some problems with this format. From what I've read, the files currently play back fine on the computer but not on extenders. According to the VideoReDo forum, this issue is being worked on and the version that was just released should still be considered a pre-release with fixes/improvements continuing to be released over the next several weeks.

[JerryB]

Originally Posted by valnar

Right, but using what parameters? Are they using x264? etc.

I don't know the difference between x264 and H.264. However, I have no problem quickly and accurately editing SageTV recorded HD PVR ts files (H.264 video/AC3 audio) with miminal recodes only at cut points.

[bthurber]

Originally Posted by JerryB

I do know that the upgrade from VideoReDo TVSuite v3 to v4 (with H264) is approximately $26 and a totally new license for TVSuite v4 is less than $100 so the cost of the upgrade from VideoReDo plus to TVSuite 4 should fall somewhere in between.

Was $46.99 for me to go from Plus to TV Suite 4.

[davephan]

Originally Posted by JerryB

Unfortunately, they've not published the price for this upgrade yet. You only find out the upgrade price by installing the demo for the new version on your computer, in a different directory from the old version so that it doesn't mess up the old version if you decide to revert back. Then, after trying the demo, if you decide that want to purchase it, there is a software routine that checks to see if you have a license for a previous version of VideoReDo and, if so, offers you the appropriate upgrade price.

I do know that the upgrade from VideoReDo TVSuite v3 to v4 (with H264) is approximately $26 and a totally new license for TVSuite v4 is less than $100 so the cost of the upgrade from VideoReDo plus to TVSuite 4 should fall somewhere in between.

You can select the default directory to install the VideoReDo Suite. The VideoReDo Plus is in a directory c:\program files\VideoReDoPlus and the VideoReDo Suite version 4 is in the directory c:\program files\VideoReDoSuite4. You can use either program independently. I have been using both programs for about a year, and the beta VideoReDo Suite version 4 with h.264 support for about 2 - 3 months.

Originally Posted by valnar

I wonder how it cuts H.264 video. Does it recompress the cut part depending where it's at? I hope it doesn't mess up the stream - H.264 wasn't meant to be edited. Pretty cool feat though.

It cuts cleanly as far as I can tell. I've tried several video editing software packages that claim to work with h.264. Many of the editing packages do not cut h.264 cleanly and are poorly engineered for someone who just wants to edit h.264, and save to edited h.264 files. VideoReDo Suite 4 is by far the best h.264

I haven't tried burning an edited h.264 file yet. In general, I don't burn DVDs very often.

Dave

[crobs808]

Just bought and Paid for VideoRedo TVSuite 4 w/H.264...it was $95 - ouch!!

Double ouch, because it does not support larger WTV files! It handled my 100mb WTV files just fine (H.264/AC3), so that is why I bought it, since my test went well, but when I tried it with a 9GB WTV files (same codecs), it failed and said it could not find the stream, or something like that when I just tried to open it...so they claim to be working on it right now. He said give him until the end of the week to fix it, so I replied saying that if I didn't have a working build by Friday then I would have to request a refund, so we will see.