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Old 10-10-2010, 11:46 AM
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Auto rotating of photos

Is there a way to turn this off?

Or, an easy way to fix the photos that Sage thinks are rotated and are not. My wife rotated photos and I think the header info was not adjusted at that time. So Sage is still rotating already fixed photos...

Any tools/methods/recommendations are welcome.

Thanks!
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Old 10-10-2010, 02:51 PM
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I believe there is a flag to disable it. Have you looked through the release notes? I remember reading something about this feature.
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:01 PM
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I finally found the option to disable the auto rotate. However, they are still being rotated... I regenerated the thumbnails and have double checked the orientation that Windows shows, and for some reason the photos are being rotated within Sage.

Any ideas?
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:13 AM
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Not neccessarily a quick solution, but we have been using Windows Photo Gallery Live for picture mangement. With this program it easy batch tag and batch rotate photos. It saves the photos with the proper EXIF and XMP tags, and Sage has no problem reading them correctly.

Grant
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Old 10-18-2010, 02:02 PM
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No luck. I tried Windows Live gallery and I still get the same thing... Every program except Sage properly displays the photo orientation...

How do I get Sage to use the correct orientation?
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:32 PM
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I'm not sure where the orientation is stored in the exif data but if you can figure it out, http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ might help you change it. If nothing else you can squash the exif data completely but that may be a little extreme

Work on copies of a test image and not your live data
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:14 AM
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Ok, I'm back to messing with this with no better results. I've tried several photo editing programs to rotate the pics, and even changed the orientation contained within the exif info with exif editors, and I’ve used the built-in Sage rotating function. No matter what, Sage seems to be doing its own thing with the orientation of my pics.

I have turned the auto rotate off on both the server and extender, so Sage should be displaying properly. Or, at least be displaying the orientation that I see in every other program I’ve used. To make matters worse, what I see in Sage on the server is not what is replicated on my extender. On the server the pics show properly and when looked at on the extender they arerotated... How is that? Shouldn't they be exactly replicated? They're the same source.

I've moved the pics out of the import path, rescanned and moved them back and proceeded to generate new thumbnails with no success. I've even rotated the pics with Sage's built in lossless rotate function within the photo browser. Despite all this, the changes only seem to be happening in one place on the server, because that’s where I rotated the pic. The change is does not appear on the extender????

Shouldn’t I be able to make the change on the server and have the extenders display properly?

Any ideas of what I can do to get this to cooperate? BTW, where do the thumbnails get generated/populated?
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:02 AM
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I've made some headway. It seems that the option for auto rotate on the extender wasn't working properly. Even though I set it to not rotate it was still rotating them. I toggled it On and then off again. Now both the Server and Extender replicate the same orientation.

I've actually found the Auto Rotate to work well. It seemed all screwed up for my pics. However, I was using pics that I previously rotated with other programs. Somehow the exif data or something got all mucked up with the various rotations I've tried. The only way that I've found for the misbehaving ones is to completely purge the exif data for those files.

I found a couple of decent free GUI tools I thought I would share. One for reading/writing exif as well as a lossless rotator:

http://www.colorpilot.com/exifpro.html
http://annystudio.com/software/jpeglosslessrotator/

At least I know now that Sage will properly rotate my pics without any interaction. It was my fault prior to v7 that I used other programs to rotate the pics, in doing so, I think the exif data was either not manipulated or something got screwed up along the way...
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