how to have a remote ip email it self to you

[Dreameriz]

Hello

OK so i know that i have looked all over the Internet for this thought maybe here some one can help. So i have sagetv setup for my parents and have window 7 pro for there server everything is great and i know how to use remote desktop and works great for updating stuff for them since they are not close by..

The only thing ever time i need to do work on it they have to give me there ip. Since they have qwest dsl and there have a dhcp ip addresses and don't want to get a static ip and it is con-stile changing. So I was wonder if there is a easy way to run some small but easy script or something for the it to email me there ip address and don't want any have programs on there and don't want it to be noticeable. Also this would be nice to do for my other family members that i fix there pc all the time to just have there ip address sent to me automatically so i can keep up on them Any suggestion would be nice Thank you

Ps I thought mabye if there would be a way to do this by like a MAC address of a modem or something

[Fuzzy]

There are numerous Dynamic IP address services out there, some free, others not. They require a reporting software to be installed on the remote PC, and it will update the DNS service with their IP. That's fine and all - but did you know that sagetv has one of these already? The same Locator ID that is used by placeshifter to access the server regardless of IP can be used universally as a way of locating the service. Narflex details the Locator HTTP Redirect here.

[Dreameriz]

yea i know about DynDNS and locater option. I was just looking for something for multiple ip addresses easily with out a lot of setup on each machine i tech support

[Fuzzy]

well, really, there's nothing to 'set-up' with the locator service. All you'd need to know is the locatorID for it, and that'll get you the public IP the server currently has. All that needs to be enabled is the placeshifter lcoator service in sagetv setup.

[Bikeman]

What do you consider a lot of setup? How many machines?

We support hundreds of machines using Microsoft's free Live Mesh beta for XP users and Windows Live Mesh 2011 for Vista and Win 7.

The beta version is going away on 3/31.

They just need a Windows LiveID to use, either their own or one that can be used, i.e., my mom, sisters and brother all share a single LiveID setup only for support issues that I do for them.

[Dreameriz]

Plus DNS only works but i know you can load a client that helps keep ur ip addresses up todate but that only works on one pc unless like my router supports dns and then i can just do multipe pc from there plus if you run it from a pc doesnt it affect all your webserfing go throuh that dns or mabye i justdont under stand it well enough.

Windows live mesh looked promising to me that is true but i tried to download today for a vista machine would not let me mabye just understnad it or now where the correct link was. Does look promising I would just like to be able to use remote desktop though like and since i can change the ports on it so they arent standered for when using mutlpie pc

i kind of want like a dns but all i want is a script
that does

Check IP every 5hrs
if changed send email to:xxxx@XXX.com
and can just paste to ever pc easily

guess dns works that way to but jsut have to go through that was checking if there was a script out there that was light weight and would run in the back ground and not me a issue. like a client program or mesh just dont know how much resoruce they use up

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Dreameriz

Plus DNS only works but i know you can load a client that helps keep ur ip addresses up todate but that only works on one pc unless like my router supports dns and then i can just do multipe pc from there plus if you run it from a pc doesnt it affect all your webserfing go throuh that dns or mabye i justdont under stand it well enough.

No, this is mostly incorrect. You only need to run the client on a single PC on your network. No matter how many PC's you've got the network, you still only have a single internet IP. The client checks the route between itself and it's service and picks the closest public IP in the chain (this would be the IP of your router, most likely). This is what gets reported to the DNS.

Also, dyndns has nothing to do with your own internet traffic, it is just there to respond to name lookups, and respond with your current IP.

[SteveD]

You could use crossloop.Install it on both machine( your computer, there computer), it is based on vnc. They launch there, give share access, read a code to you, click connect. You launch app in access mode, ask for there code, connect, ask them to approve your connection. You are in.

[davephan]

There's a very easy way to solve your problem! You want to be able to remote control the remote computer. Use logmein to remotely control the computer instead of remote desktop.

Create a free account on www.logmein.com. Log into the account on your computer and install the free logmein remote control software. You will then see the steps needed to install logmein remote control, and you will be able to remote control your own computer when you are away from home without knowing the public IP address.

Next, have your parents log into your logmein account on their computer. Then walk them through the installation process. Or find out the public IP address by having your parents go to www.whatismyip.com and use a remote desktop connection for the logmein installation process. After the free logmein software is installed on the remote computer while logged onto your logmein web account, then your parents computer will then display on the list of computers that you can remote control when you log into your free logmein web account. You will never need to know the remote computer's public IP address to connect with logmein remote control again, even if the public IP changes on the remote computer or your local computer. Make sure that you setup logmein on the remote computer to always automatically enable. Then you won't have to walk them through the process of enabling the logmein remote control software before you connect each time. You will need to know their username and password because when you connect, you will be prompted for their log in information. You can then remote control without having anyone manually interacting at the remote computer to approve your connection.

Also, install FTP software on your computer and the remote computer. I use Bulletproof FTP, but you could use Filezilla, which is free. You can even easily encrypt the FTP traffic if you want to do that. Next, configure their router by connecting to the web GUI on their router when connected to their computer with logmein remote control. You figure the router to pass the FTP traffic to the specific remote computer, since there could be more than one computer on their local area network. You will then be able to transfer files between the two computers. You can also transfer files with the paid version of logmein, but it is free with the free ftp software.

I've used free logmein remote control software for many years to remote control and maintain the family's computers nearby or on the other side of the planet. Logmein remote control software is very reliable, and you never need to know the public IP addresses. I have at least a dozen remote computers on my logmein web profile that I can remote control. The logmein updates are free and the software is free year after year. There is a paid version of logmein with more features, but you probably won't need any of those features if you also use FTP software.

Dave

[KeithAbbott]

+1 for logmein.com

Another benefit to logmein.com is that the desktop of the computer that you are connecting to is still fully functional on their end. They can move the mouse, use the keyboard, and view the monitor simultaneous with you. So you can do some online "training" when it makes sense. I haven't used Win 7 remote desktop, but I know with Win XP remote desktop if you are logged in remotely, the local machine is locked.

Almost forgot. You can also shutdown and reboot the computer with logmein.com, last I checked remote desktop does not allow you to do that.

[Dreameriz]

logmein.com
My question on this is again how much resorces it takes to run it in the background and when in use how much resorces it uses

[davephan]

Almost zero resources. The CPU is zero or close to zero. Between the 3 processes the load is less than 30k memory. I've never noticed any load from running logmein.

I don't remember when I started using logmein, maybe about ten years ago. Periodically, there have been program updates, but it's been free that whole time. When you first install it, you will see extra features that you would get with the pay version. The extra features will go away after the trial period, and it will revert to the basic logmein, which is free and which is probably all you will need, as long as you install free FTP software for file transfers. The remote control response times are good as long as you have broadband Internet connections on both ends.

Dave

[Denali]

Check out www.ezdns.com/ Works for me.

[mistergq]

Are you also talking about the IP address for the computer changing as well as the DSL IP address?

To stop the computer changing ip address, you just need to set a static IP for the computer. That way, then you know how to get to it.

I also recommend a DNS service for the internet IP address.

[Bikeman]

With Windows Live Mesh 2011, you don't need anything else. If the internal IP address changes, not a problem. If the external IP address changes, not a problem. No changes to any router setup. If you are disconnected, try it again in 15 seconds.

The Windows Live Mesh 2011 is part of the Live Essentials package of free Microsoft apps. If you look at your Windows Update optional updates, it will be there as Live Essentials 2011 for both Vista or Win 7. Otherwise you can download it here; http://explore.live.com/windows-live...tials?os=other

During the install, one can select all apps or just the Live Mesh.

After the install, click Start | All Programs | Windows Live | Windows Live Mesh 2011 | on the top, select the Remote tab | click the link to "Allow remote connections to this computer". You're done.

To access the machine in the future, go to devices.live.com on any Vista or Win7, Mac or soon, Windows Phone 6.5 or 7 machine, sign in with the LiveID you want to connect to, select the computer you want to control, enter its user password. We routinely connect to multiple machines at the same time, either with the same LiveID or with a different one. (File | New Session | log into devices.live.com and use a different LiveID)

If you want to transfer files, right click, copy and paste, just like any other Windows operation. One does receive free 5GB storage with the WLM and another free 25GB with Skydrive with your LiveID signup. One can also file sync computer to computer without any size limitations.

The only requirement is the remote computer needs to be Vista or Win7, turned on and connected to the Internet. Install it on any computer you want to control.

The remote computer is asked for 30 seconds to be remotely controlled before the connection is completed, if not answered, allows you to connect anyway. The remote user can see what you are doing or not, you decide. Either person can type or use a mouse.

The WLM program work similar to LogMeIn Free, but has features that the free version doesn't have.

BTW, this is all done using a secure https: connection.

Jeff

[davephan]

Thanks for posting the info about Windows Live Mesh 2011, I haven't heard of that before. Do you know if it works to remote control 2003 and 2008 server editions? Can the remote control session be done from XP, you do you need Windows 7?

Logmein also uses a secure internet connection, but the file transfer isn't free unless you use free FTP software and use the FTP program to do the file transfer. File transfers could also be done using the remote control using Yahoo Messenger or Skype file transfer.

Dave

[Bikeman]

Server 2003 is a no go. 2008 is good for WLM 2011.

I don't think an XP user can connect to the WLM 2011, but have never tried. We don't have any XP machines around here anymore other than virtual ones.

We also use Dropbox for file storage. Grab the file's public link and paste it into the Remote's browser to download. SkyDrive is OK, Dropbox is just easier to use in my opinion, even when using some SkyDrive's add-ons.

Jeff

[Dreameriz]

www.ezdns.com/ this was all i was kind of looking for now i just need a pop email that works with t i dont use pop email any suggestion.




Windows live mesh does look good and glad to see them do soemthing smart like this and i will try it out my only problem is that not all the pc i need connect to run vista or windows 7 yet.

[Denali]

Originally Posted by Dreameriz

www.ezdns.com/ this was all i was kind of looking for now i just need a pop email that works with t i dont use pop email any suggestion.

Who does your email?

[Fuzzy]

I guess I'm still trying to figure out why you are even looking at email for this. Either use a true dynamic DNS service (like dyndns.org), and just connect using the dynamic dns name, or use the sage locator service to connect vie IP.