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Old 02-26-2011, 05:33 PM
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wait that screenshot says mpeg?
It need be this way so that it show MPEG-2 TS
mmc/python2_encoding/Colossus\ Max\ Constant\ Rate=videobitrate\=20000000|vbr\=0|outputstreamtype\=1
mmc/python2_encoding/Colossus\ Max\ Variable\ Rate=videobitrate\=13500000|vbr\=1|peakvideobitrate\=20000000|outputstreamtype\=1
mmc/python2_encoding/HDPVR\ Max\ Constant\ Rate=videobitrate\=13500000|vbr\=0|outputstreamtype\=1
mmc/python2_encoding/HDPVR\ Max\ Variable\ Rate=videobitrate\=9500000|vbr\=1|peakvideobitrate\=13500000|outputstreamtype\=1
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:46 PM
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It need be this way so that it show MPEG-2 TS
mmc/python2_encoding/Colossus\ Max\ Constant\ Rate=videobitrate\=20000000|vbr\=0|outputstreamtype\=1
mmc/python2_encoding/Colossus\ Max\ Variable\ Rate=videobitrate\=13500000|vbr\=1|peakvideobitrate\=20000000|outputstreamtype\=1
mmc/python2_encoding/HDPVR\ Max\ Constant\ Rate=videobitrate\=13500000|vbr\=0|outputstreamtype\=1
mmc/python2_encoding/HDPVR\ Max\ Variable\ Rate=videobitrate\=9500000|vbr\=1|peakvideobitrate\=13500000|outputstreamtype\=1
That did the trick for me.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:47 PM
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Just to confirm, I have colossus working with directv using HDMI for audio and video using ethernet tuning, and it is working really well. Tuning seems to be faster and I have been watching it all day and not had any issues with video or audio. Picture also seems to be better using the hdmi connection..

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Old 02-26-2011, 06:56 PM
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I have had video freeze twice this afternoon while my GF was watching live TV via the Colussus. Luckily all I had to do each time was stop and then start again. No resetting or anything.

I have Cox cable but I'm thinking about trying the HDMI later tonight just in case.

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Old 02-26-2011, 07:04 PM
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Just to confirm, I have colossus working with directv using HDMI for audio and video using ethernet tuning, and it is working really well. Tuning seems to be faster and I have been watching it all day and not had any issues with video or audio. Picture also seems to be better using the hdmi connection..

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Wow

After reading this post, I went and tried HDMI

Now I am getting both video and audio from my DirectTV via HDMI input.

Picture seem better too and I am locked at 720p output.


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Old 02-26-2011, 07:07 PM
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Just to confirm, I have colossus working with directv using HDMI for audio and video using ethernet tuning, and it is working really well. Tuning seems to be faster and I have been watching it all day and not had any issues with video or audio. Picture also seems to be better using the hdmi connection..

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Old 02-26-2011, 07:18 PM
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Just to confirm, I have colossus working with directv using HDMI for audio and video using ethernet tuning, and it is working really well. Tuning seems to be faster and I have been watching it all day and not had any issues with video or audio. Picture also seems to be better using the hdmi connection..

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Got the same working on a vip211k from dishnewtork. Only issue I had was I have to set audio to pcm wouldn't handle dolby digital through hdmi and I agree the picture is much improved over hdmi than component less artifacting and faster tuning indeed. Been running it like 7 hours now without issue not even one skip or stutter very shocked I was able to use hdmi and pleased how well it is working.
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:32 PM
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DirecTV H20 working over HDMI. Picture quality is noticeably improved. Now wishing I had ordered two with the Facebook deal.
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:34 PM
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I am shocked as well that the HDMI works from DirecTV/Dish and happy for you guys. This is a great way to hook it up.

However, it does highlight the futility in all of it. You have a hardworking processor in the DirecTV STB sucking up electricity and generating heat to decode the H.264 stream to a digital picture signal over HDMI, and another hardworking processor in the Hauppauge Colossus sucking up electricity and generating heat to re-encode that digital picture signal back to an H.264 stream. How pointless and inefficient. It offends me as an engineer that it has to work this way.
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:38 PM
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Greg have you tried hdmi I know some have it working with directv boxes as well.
Just tried it now. No luck with my H21-100. Some channels are black screen, some have video with garbled audio. Went back to Component+SPDIF, which looks great compared to the old Hughes R5000 box.

Edit: Even if I could get HDMI working, I'd be afraid that some DirecTV software update would kill it while I was out of town or something.
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So which DirecTV receivers are working with HDMI?
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:28 PM
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Just tried it now. No luck with my H21-100. Some channels are black screen, some have video with garbled audio. Went back to Component+SPDIF, which looks great compared to the old Hughes R5000 box.

Edit: Even if I could get HDMI working, I'd be afraid that some DirecTV software update would kill it while I was out of town or something.
I wouldn't think so I think you either have a hdcp compliant box or not. Appears you do which is a bummer. Although I thought jphipps was a h21 but maybe a different version. I expected my vip211k to not show premium movie channels but even they come in clear.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:29 PM
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I am shocked as well that the HDMI works from DirecTV/Dish and happy for you guys. This is a great way to hook it up.

However, it does highlight the futility in all of it. You have a hardworking processor in the DirecTV STB sucking up electricity and generating heat to decode the H.264 stream to a digital picture signal over HDMI, and another hardworking processor in the Hauppauge Colossus sucking up electricity and generating heat to re-encode that digital picture signal back to an H.264 stream. How pointless and inefficient. It offends me as an engineer that it has to work this way.
It is sad we have to do this but i think you are overstating the power usage. The server is on anyways for sagetv and the new internal is not using all that much power.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:40 PM
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So which DirecTV receivers are working with HDMI?
I am using it on an H21-100 and all is working..

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Old 02-26-2011, 09:41 PM
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Just tried it now. No luck with my H21-100. Some channels are black screen, some have video with garbled audio. Went back to Component+SPDIF, which looks great compared to the old Hughes R5000 box.

Edit: Even if I could get HDMI working, I'd be afraid that some DirecTV software update would kill it while I was out of town or something.
The first STB I tried with HDMI was H22-600 and it worked right off the bat but the setting on H22-600 was already at No Native and 720P


Then second STB I tested was H24-200 STB, all I was getting either blue or black screen and no audio.

So I set the H24-200 to No Native and at 720P only then it start giving me video and audio. I can't confirm how good the audio is because I'm Deaf but picture is very clear.


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Just tried it now. No luck with my H21-100. Some channels are black screen, some have video with garbled audio. Went back to Component+SPDIF, which looks great compared to the old Hughes R5000 box.

Edit: Even if I could get HDMI working, I'd be afraid that some DirecTV software update would kill it while I was out of town or something.
That is strange, I have an H21-100 and it is working well on all channels I have tested. Are you running it at 1080i? ( That is what I am using )

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I am using it on an H21-100 and all is working..

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Tried it on H22-600 and H24-200, so far working


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I have two Colossus working with H21-100 and HR21-200 Directv boxes. Both receivers work over HDMI but when they are set to output Dobly Digital 5.1 the picture is good but I just get a buzzing on the audio. Reset to stereo output they work on HDMI but I want the DD so am back to component.

FWIW, I have plugged and unplugged the optical, HDMI and component cables to see how it responds and in each case it recovers after a bit when plugged back in. I replaced two HD-PVR's which regularly crashed for me in BeyondTV so have switched to Sage and won't be going back.

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Old 02-26-2011, 11:27 PM
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I have a question that's a bit off topic but somewhat related to the Colossus. In one of his posts on this thread, SHS indicated that the Colossus uses a different encoder chip that the HD-PVR. Judging by the screencap posted comparing the Colossus and HD-PVR the Colossus produces a better picture. Does anyone know if Hauppauge will redesign the HD-PVR with the new encoder chip?

I just bought a HD-PVR and want to know whether I should return it while I still can and wait for a HD-PVR with the new encoder chip. My HTPC is old and only has AGP/PCI slots not PCIe so I can't use the Colossus. I don't want to spend the money to build a new HTPC as this one does everything I want it to do and money is tight right now.
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I am shocked as well that the HDMI works from DirecTV/Dish and happy for you guys. This is a great way to hook it up.

However, it does highlight the futility in all of it. You have a hardworking processor in the DirecTV STB sucking up electricity and generating heat to decode the H.264 stream to a digital picture signal over HDMI, and another hardworking processor in the Hauppauge Colossus sucking up electricity and generating heat to re-encode that digital picture signal back to an H.264 stream. How pointless and inefficient. It offends me as an engineer that it has to work this way.
Offending or not, this IS the reason i purchased 3 R-5000HD mods for my ViP-211's. That said, i did purchase two of the colossus cards, because one of the R-5000's has completely died, the other is flaking out. I can't justify the high price to replace the bad R-5000, when the Colossus will work almost as well, and cost a LOT less.
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