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Old 05-24-2004, 06:58 AM
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When playing MP3s in Music Jukebox I get like a 30sec pause between audio tracks.

When playing MP3s in Music Jukebox I get like a 30sec pause between audio tracks. Anyone else get this?
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Old 05-24-2004, 08:45 AM
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Yes, I've noticed this as well. At first I thought it was a strange issue with 'samba' and sage .....but I'm not so sure now.

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Old 05-24-2004, 12:02 PM
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Is it just 30 seconds or does it vary. As has been pointed out elsewhere, Sage seems to have a problem getting the MP3 running time correct. For example two tracks checked at random.

Track 1: Sage 06:13 / Actual 03:56
Track 2: Sage 05:37 / Actual 03:57

Only one second difference in true running times, but Sage shows 36 seconds difference. Of course Sage will not move to the next track until the run time has been reached, so you can get a big delay between tracks.
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Old 05-27-2004, 02:08 AM
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Sage does not calculate the durations of VBR/ABR MP3 files correctly:
http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&highlight=vbr
(it uses the bitrate of the first MP3 frame and assumes it is for the whole file when calculating the duration)
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Old 06-29-2004, 02:01 AM
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This makes it indeed very difficult to use the Music Jukebox for my mp3's. Anyway I want to put all my music CD's again in mp3 format to play them under SageTV.

Do you know a trick to get around the problem or do you know a CD ripper or WAV to MP3 Convertor which does not have this problem...........
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Old 06-29-2004, 05:50 AM
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Do you know a trick to get around the problem or do you know a CD ripper or WAV to MP3 Convertor which does not have this problem....
If you want to use this feature in SageTV right now... Then just rip the music as a CBR MP3, rather than a VBR. If you use the same bitrate the the quality should be equal. But the files will be a little larger as CBR than they would as VBR, depending on the musics exact audio properties. If you don't want to use CBR, then use another music palyer for now and wait for Frey to fix the VBR issue in a new version.

You might also want to let Frey know how much working VBR playback means for you. The more Frey knows an issue is wanted, the more effort the should put into getting it in/fixed ASAP.
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Old 09-18-2004, 05:28 PM
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You might also want to let Frey know how much working VBR playback means for you. The more Frey knows an issue is wanted, the more effort the should put into getting it in/fixed ASAP.

Just encountered this the last week, so I did a forum search. Doh. This is definatly something I'd like to see.
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Old 09-20-2004, 09:13 AM
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This issue, along with the issue of some CBR MP3s not starting until FF is pressed (they work fine in every other player I've used), is the reason that I've given up on Sage and moved over to Meedio (I can wait for the TV plugin). I've submitted both issues as bugs to Frey, and only received vague "we're working on it" responses.

I've ripped my entire music collection (400+ CDs) to MP3 over the years, and there is no way I'm going to go back and re-encode everything just so that it "might" work in Sage, when they already play correctly in every other player.
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:10 PM
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This is the *exact* problem that I am having as well! There is a pause in between the songs that is really annoying... Mine are all VBR as well and I am not in a position to re-rip all of my CDs... How complex is a fix for this issue?
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Old 10-13-2004, 08:39 AM
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Cool, I thought I was the only one......good to see there are other people suffering

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Old 11-14-2004, 12:10 AM
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getting same problem

I also have hours of work that have gone into encoding my mp3s as vbr. Fixing this issue is on the top of my list of things I'd wish to see remedied in Sage.
Is there an audio codec (like LAME, etc) that we could pop in to replace the one that comes with Sage?
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Old 11-14-2004, 08:47 AM
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Is there an audio codec (like LAME, etc) that we could pop in to replace the one that comes with Sage?
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'all' you need (apparantly) is a directshow mp3 filter that correctly reports the length of VBR files.. The default one does not (and you can see this if you playback an mp3 via graphedit). I have yet to find one
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Old 11-19-2004, 09:20 AM
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'all' you need (apparantly) is a directshow mp3 filter that correctly reports the length of VBR files.. The default one does not (and you can see this if you playback an mp3 via graphedit). I have yet to find one
Would this also fix the CBR issue that rubber ducky mentioned above where the next file will not play until you press FF which I think is the same issue I have. Sometimes when it switches songs or if I FF to the end of the song, the audio will be muted unless I FF or RW again. The audio will restart if I select the "Reload Mediaplayer" in the setup menu. The progress bar is actually moving, but there is no sound. If I press FF the sound starts from the time on the progress bar. If I let it continue to "play" it will switch songs, sometimes with audio. If I press RW less than 10 seconds into the song, it jumps back to the begining with no audio. Same if less than 10 sec from end and press FF.
Any one have any thoughts? It would really be nice if this advertised feature worked.
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Old 11-19-2004, 09:31 AM
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Have you tried this one?
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:49 PM
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Have you tried this one?
If somebody that was experiencing either of the above two problems would let me know if this resolves the problem, I'd appreciate it.
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:58 PM
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Have you tried this one?
havn't tried it, but the readme suggests that it is an mp3 encoder filter, not a decoder...
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:23 PM
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I have been having this identical problem, try to play an mp3, and get nada about 80% of the time. For whatever reason, sometimes it works fine for a certain file, but try the same file again, and nothing. Most frustrating.

My music files work in every other player that I have just fine and are not encoded in VBR.

A fix for this would be really nice.

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Old 11-28-2004, 05:35 PM
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Is this complicated to fix? To not put a delay inbetween VBR MP3s?
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:27 AM
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Is this complicated to fix? To not put a delay inbetween VBR MP3s?
Basically, I believe it would require Frey to read in the entire MP3 to get an accurate length on VBR files, instead of assuming the first bitrate the player sees will be used for the entire song. Meedio has a checkbox in it's configuration to "enable support for VBR MP3s" which does exactly this, and I'd love to go back to Sage if/when they finally fix this.
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