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Old 07-13-2011, 09:02 AM
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Google has already given us a sneak preview into what they are planning and it's not a pretty picture.

SageTV extenders have been aborted from sales. Google could have easily given SageTV customers who rely on extenders another path. But they have not.

So SageTV already started decaying weeks ago when the annoucement was made and no provisions were setup for existing customers to continue with some kind of extenders.
that would all appear to be true. Paying $400 for an extender on Ebay seems desperate at this point
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:06 AM
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Dead implies it doesn't work. I get it, you're and angry dude... I also don't care... I watched a LOT of TV yesterday, as I have for the last month... Never once did anything pop up on my screen indicating I had been screwed in any way. In fact, there are very likely MANY users of sage that don't even know about the buyout yet, and are perfectly happy using their 'DEAD' systems.
agreed, but just make sure you turn off all Windows updates on the machine running your server, no? I guess that includes Hauppauge updates as well, or will they take into consideration their user base who maintain a product that has stopped with W7 SP1?
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:57 AM
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I should have said "we know nothing other than what we've been told."

I know it won't stop people from speculating, what is annoying to me is the ones that are acting like their speculation is fact.
Apparently you haven't heard of this thing called the internet.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:21 AM
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True. I should have said "we know nothing other than what we've been told."

I know it won't stop people from speculating, but what is annoying to me is the ones that are acting like their speculation is fact. There is nothing wrong with people sharing their opinion about what may be going on or what will happen, but when they state that opinion like it is a fact and nobody else is right, then we have a problem.
Problem is, opinions are like a$$h*les, everybody has one. Some just stink more than others.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:24 AM
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Problem is, opinions are like a$$h*les, everybody has one. Some just stink more than others.
I was going to say that, but I stopped myself. Thanks for that one.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:25 AM
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Apparently you haven't heard of this thing called the internet.
Wait...is that what we are on right now??? I've been using it this whole time!!
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:38 AM
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Wait...is that what we are on right now??? I've been using it this whole time!!
Yes, it's the place where every single person's opinion is the only one that counts and nobody else knows as much as them. Where the line between opinion and fact (or, gulp, news) was blurred about 15 years ago and gets blurrier every day. And where anyone of any insane opinion, fetish, or idea can find like-minded people who will convince them that they are RIGHT!

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Old 07-13-2011, 12:26 PM
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agreed, but just make sure you turn off all Windows updates on the machine running your server, no? I guess that includes Hauppauge updates as well, or will they take into consideration their user base who maintain a product that has stopped with W7 SP1?
For starters, I have never had a windows update affect a piece of software. Second, I have no reason to have updates on a headless sagetv server. I also don't have any hauppauge products short of my MediaMVP in my kids' play room.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:42 PM
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Just to throw the thread back on track, I think Jeff paid Google millions to become part of Google. Anyone disagree?
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:44 PM
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Just to throw the thread back on track, I think Jeff paid Google millions to become part of Google. Anyone disagree?
I think the whole thing happened in a late night poker game. And after some heavy drinking.

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Old 07-13-2011, 12:46 PM
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I think the whole thing happened in a late night poker game. And after some heavy drinking.

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did someone mention beer?
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:48 PM
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Yes, it's the place where every single person's opinion is the only one that counts and nobody else knows as much as them. Where the line between opinion and fact (or, gulp, news) was blurred about 15 years ago and gets blurrier every day. And where anyone of any insane opinion, fetish, or idea can find like-minded people who will convince them that they are RIGHT!

(ain't it great? )
Oh. So imaginary ego boosting land. I get it now. What do we need logic for in imaginary land?

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Just to throw the thread back on track, I think Jeff paid Google millions to become part of Google. Anyone disagree?
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I think the whole thing happened in a late night poker game. And after some heavy drinking.

Gerry
That explains so much...Kind of like on Family Guy when Ted Turner bets CNN in a poker game.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:16 PM
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Or maybe Jeff faked the death of SageTV. He just claims to be part of google. Hmmm...
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:49 PM
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Second, I have no reason to have updates on a headless sagetv server.
...until the next time they change the DST rules again.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:54 PM
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...until the next time they change the DST rules again.
I really hate it when they do that. Breaks sage every time.
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I really hate it when they do that. Breaks sage every time.
Yeah, really.. it seems like it happens every freaking century.. I'm so sick of it...
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:25 AM
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Yeah, really.. it seems like it happens every freaking century.. I'm so sick of it...
I can complain about it happening twice...ever...sheesh...
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:17 PM
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Well we can have somewhat of an idea of the high end of the limit in a couple of days Google should issue their quarterly earnings on the 14th. They issue a cash flow statement which will show cash paid for acquisitions for the quarter. They would have bought more than just Sage in the quarter but the total will be the absolute ceiling assuming they bought nothing else.

Here is an article that highlights the 11 companies Google bought to date http://searchenginewatch.com/article...st-Transaction. You can probably check through and see which of these are 2Q acquisitions. And then come to some conclusion on the possible price paid for Sage of the 2Q total paid and the other companies acquired. It should stick out if they paid $50M for Sage. If they paid $10 or less, probably harder to find. Less that $2M might show up in the total paid being low but would require some diligence on what else was bought. There could also be some contingent payments from prior acquisitions in the amount paid in the quarter.

If you are really interested, you can listen to their investor webcast at http://investor.google.com/earnings.html.
Ok, Google spent $715M during the quarter on apparently 6 companies. So it's really hard to tell with so much activity. Admeld was the biggest at an estimated $400m but that may or may not be accurate. Also, as I mentioned, they may have paid cash related to previous acquisitions. So conclusion is...inconclusive.
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