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So I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree.
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Warranty... that is a very good reason to not sell off the remaining stock.
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They could still sell them, but as-is no warranty with a reduced price. I'd still buy one.
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Agreed, but they need a reserve to service the existing warranties that still exist. Once G-Day +1 year passes, yes, they could sell them as-is.
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The usual MO is to sell the remaining stock like that to a liquidator and let them deal with resale. Here's hoping that when the time comes they are willing to sell them directly to the community or let the community buy them as bulk like a group buy.
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When I worked for Circuit City we sold lots of stuff during liquidation, but you better make sure it worked before you left or you dealt with the manufacturer for a replacement/repair. Lots of complaints about that.
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setting up a dynamic dns service is extremely simple, especially since most routers have the feature built in. Then, instead of entering the locator ID in placeshifter, you enter your domain name. I have never used the locator, because it's a LOT easier to remember my domain name, than a random string of characters.
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Mods, if this does not belong here please move. Thanks. |
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SageTV does not seem to support new customers any longer.
My correspondence with SageTV or Google encourages me to reinstall my operating system just to reinstall SageTV software client/server. fromsagetv-dev sagetv-dev@google.com tosagetv-dev <sagetv-dev@google.com> ccTerrance Curry <currter@gmail.com> dateMon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:07 PM subjectRe: SageTV open ports mailed-bygoogle.com signed-bygoogle.com Important mainly because of your interaction with messages in the conversation. hide details Aug 1 Terrance, I'm sorry, but unfortunately at this time we are not selling software or hardware. But to restart the trial you can just re-install the OS on the PC. George Oms fromsagetv-dev sagetv-dev@google.com tosagetv-dev <sagetv-dev@google.com> ccTerrance Curry <currter@gmail.com> dateMon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:07 PM subjectRe: SageTV open ports mailed-bygoogle.com signed-bygoogle.com Important mainly because of your interaction with messages in the conversation. hide details Aug 1 Terrance, I'm sorry, but unfortunately at this time we are not selling software or hardware. But to restart the trial you can just re-install the OS on the PC. George Oms From: Terrance Curry <currter@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:38 AM Subject: Re: SageTV open ports To: sagetv-dev <sagetv-dev@google.com> The temporary license is about to expire in 2 days... I do not see how to purchase SageTV online on that website. Is there a way to continue using the software after the expiration? Do I have to reinstall the operating system? Does it go by network adapter MAC? Last edited by currter; 09-01-2011 at 08:48 PM. |
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Slide said in a blog post on its website that its products will be retired over the coming months and that it will give its users ample time to download any data they want from its services, in case a user wants to move the data elsewhere. For example, on Slide.com, users will soon be able to "either download their photos or export them to a Picasa account." The export feature is currently being built and users will have "several months" to get their data before everything is gone.The fact that Sage users did not get "several months" may actually bode well for a continuing Google/Sage effort. If this effort is expected to result in some form of enhanced GoogleTV+SageTV, its understandable that Google/Sage might want to avoid having current users expanding systems that may be obsoleted in the near-term. I'm hoping this is the case.
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When you start a company, you nourish it like it is your baby and will fight for its survival to the bitter end. Corporations are often more eager to throw in the towel...
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Agreed, but I can't help but wonder which beach those guys will be retiring on!!
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My thoughts
Sagetv is miles ahead of any other media center. There is nothing else aroud that comes close ( multi tuner, modifiable and usable). However sagetv to my eyes wasn't a finnished product. Having just started to upgrade to high def in the UK there were features I would like to see. - Better tuning model. I prefer Npvrs 1 tuner being able to record all the channels on that frequency rather than sages 1 tuner to 1 channel model. [ there is a work around use lm gestion dvb smart recorder but I'd like something that was built in and easier to set up ] - better xmltv import ( outside of the usa and canada we have to use xmltv imports or the OTA epg) . Again npvr has a really simple interface for importing xml tv listings built in. A built in feature for sagetv would be really good. [yes theres a work around with lm gestion xmltv importer but built in is better] - sage tv being capable of decompressing UK huffman encoded epg. In the UK some of the free to air channels have their OTA EPG is huffman compressed ( it leaves the ota epg looking a total mess of nonsensical symbols ). There are utilities that decode these listings. The huffman compression code is fixed so it doesn't need constant updating. [you can export the epg decode it and them import it again but it's much easier to just have the sagetv do this natively.] - Fast forward and slow motion never quite happened well with sagetv. Cyberlink powerdvd is great for watching tv shows at faster than average speed ( 1.1X 1.2x 1.5X 2.0X with good quality speech) and I use it ALOT but I'd much rather use it from the sage interface ( that way I could use it whilst the show was recording ( slow -mo REALLY good for sports ) - easier setup - Essentially I would like something I could recommend to friends and family regardless of their technical capabilities.( I don't like being tech support to friends and family ) - bug fixes and updates are still desirable - I found 2 rare bugs in the recording scheduling engine the other day ( nothing major ). New hardware often requires extra support. And I'm currently going through codec hell with HD audio in the UK. not sure if its my soundcard or codecs or what but it ain't pretty ( exact same setting work fine on one computer but.. ) . - Finally better gui support for cutting and converting recodings The thing is before google took over I saw all these updates as possible with the sagetv team, the inventiveness of the community and the feeling that the only agenda was making sagetv better for the sake of having a really good dvr product available. I figured with enough time sage would continue along the same lines whilst slowly getting better and better. Now, post google shock, I'm just still left wondering if googles agenda is entirely compatible with highly flexible tv recording. Will google have an incentive to keep sagetv similar to what it is now? When microsoft bought skype everyone though wait what, how much, what are they going to do with it and why? Well when google bought sagetv I was left asking the similar questions. You see I have seen Sagetv as kind of a niche product which leaves me wondering "what google want with a niche product?". We can all make random guesses but the truth is I'm still apprehensive about having a good, flexible, customisable, always improving television recording software available. I know sagetv still works as it did when it bought it but at the back of my mind I always thought I was buying into something that was always improving. I though sagetv would become more and more awesome until its awesomeness was undeniable. Now I fear it will become more and more about getting people using google. My big hope is whatever google do they will consider something similar to what they did with sketch up (ie doing a free version but also keeping a full featured paid version for "enthusiasts" ). Heres to waiting and finding out. ![]() |
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PS There is a lot of talk about sage extenders etc currently I don't use one but was thinking about it. I was wondering wouldn't it be possible to use a low power computer with placeshifter software license?? or am I not fully understanding what a sage extender is?
( I wonder if chrome based extendors with better internet access are on their way ? ) |
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an extender (there were three, the hd100, hd200, and hd300) was a standalone appliance built and sold by sagetv that connected to a pc that acted like a server.
Without an extender, you (currently) have to use a full pc with the client software. The hd300s sold for $150 bucks.
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Hmmm now I see the problem. but with atom ion and amd apu 350's with mboard for $180 a case and psu for $70 slim hd $40 fans remotes cables memory $40 you got $330 + delivery + cost of license + cost of old xp license. thats not bad. but I can see why people would prefer the cheaper and better option. $150 is a good price. |
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