Plugin: mc2xml EPG Plugin

[kricker]

Yeah. The data is pulled no problem. It is just very sporadic. Some time slots have data others do not. Some channel have very little data other have more. I had the same issue with the built in Guide provided by Sage.

I have re-installed Sage from scratch multiple times before deciding to try to change guide providers. Below is screenshot of the guide:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ibxnqd.jpg

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by kricker

Crap. Well that was all a waste of time. The same channels still have No Data. Considering both source are coming from Zap2it, there must be something wrong on their end. Anyone have any idea how to contact support with them? The listings on the website for the same channels are fine.

Look in the channels.xml file in your lineup directory. Are the channels that have no data listed in that file? If not, then there is no data being pulled down for that channel and most likely means that the channel is not a part of the lineup you selected. In that case, you need to contact Z2I and get them to add the channel (back) to the lineup in question. If the channel is in that xml file then go to xmltv.xml and search for the channel id in there... are there any <programme> nodes for that channel? If not, then the channel is in the lineup, but no data is being pulled down for that channel. This is also a Z2I issue. Finally, if the channel is in the channels.xml and there are <programme> nodes in the xmltv.xml file for that channel, but it still shows up as "No Data" in the EPG then that would be a bug with my code - and that's something I'd like to fix.

EDIT: Forgot one more case: If the channel is there and there are programme nodes, but there are gaps in the data for that channel then Sage would still show No Data for those gaps. If the No Data gaps coincide with the gaps in the <programme> nodes then that's also a Z2I issue - they're not providing full data for the channel(s) in question.

EDIT 2: For channel "MYVLT". Find the <programme> node for "The Office" airing at 6pm. What time is the program that precedes it in the xml data? (All the programs in the xmltv.xml file are listed by channel then date.)

[kricker]

I'll look thru them and see. I've also uploaded them here if you want to look thru them.

Here is a list of stations for this area.

In channels.xml file there are many display names I've never heard of. What do the Channel ids correspond to? None of the names and numbers match at all.

For example:

<channel id="I5.28456829.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WBIRDT</display-name>
		<display-name>5 WBIRDT</display-name>
		<display-name>5</display-name>
		<display-name>WBIRDT (WBIR-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>NBC Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>

WBIR should be channel 10, the digital version is 10.1.

<channel id="I7.38469857.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WLOSDT</display-name>
		<display-name>7 WLOSDT</display-name>
		<display-name>7</display-name>
		<display-name>WLOSDT (WLOS-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>ABC Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>

Using Google reveals WLOS is a channel from Asheville NC. For him channel 7 should be WMAK, but that is listed at the top of the file as channel 3 and 4.

<channel id="I3.38562402.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WMAKDT</display-name>
		<display-name>3 WMAKDT</display-name>
		<display-name>3</display-name>
		<display-name>WMAKDT (WMAK-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
</channel>
<channel id="I4.195990815.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WMAKDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>4 WMAKDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>4</display-name>
		<display-name>WMAKDT2 (WMAK-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
</channel>

I can't make any sense out of this file to start with :/

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by kricker

I'll look thru them and see. I've also uploaded them here if you want to look thru them.

So in the case of MYVLT, that channel is not in the lineup pulled from mc2xml. And I think this has to do with the fact that the legacy service in mc2xml does not support OTA/OTA subchannels. Apparently, the newer MS service does support OTA and subchannels and has the proper listings for them. However, my plugin doesn't support the data format of those new MS listings - though it's on the todo list, but requires some mods in mc2xml, which I'm currently testing.

However, these subchannels should be listed by the Sage EPG service. Definitely would be opening a ticket with Sage support about this issue. You should be able to pull those channels down from the Sage EPG service.

[kricker]

I was updating my post when you posted, please look above for more info. See if any of that make sense to you. These gaps are on the exact same channels that I was having issues with the built in Sage guide.

I did'nt realize Sage support was even responding to requests now.

If you need a tester let me know. I'd be happy to help out.

[kricker]

I've done more looking around and focused on the channel WVLT which should be channel 8.1. In channels.xml it is listed as:

<channel id="I19.28455993.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT</display-name>
		<display-name>19 WVLTDT</display-name>
		<display-name>19</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT (WVLT-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>CBS Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>

In xmltv.xml there are many programme nodes for I19.28455993.microsoft.com. Yet in the guide I only see "No Data".

[kricker]

Originally Posted by Slugger

EDIT 2: For channel "MYVLT". Find the <programme> node for "The Office" airing at 6pm. What time is the program that precedes it in the xml data? (All the programs in the xmltv.xml file are listed by channel then date.)

"The Office" at 6:00PM is on WVLTDT2 which is listed as:

<channel id="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>20 WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>20</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT2 (WVLT-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>MyNetworkTV Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>

Here is the listing with the item before it:

	<programme start="20111027173000 -0400" stop="20111027180000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">Excused</title>
		<sub-title lang="en">No Mo Yo Bro</sub-title>
		<credits>
			<presenter>Iliza Shlesinger</presenter>
		</credits>
		<date>20111011</date>
		<category lang="en">Episodic</category>
		<category lang="en">Game Show</category>
		<category lang="en">Reality</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<episode-num system="onscreen">1039</episode-num>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP01436521.0032</episode-num>
		<video>
			<aspect>16:9</aspect>
			<quality>HDTV</quality>
		</video>
		<audio>
			<stereo>stereo</stereo>
		</audio>
		<previously-shown start="20111011000000" />
		<subtitles type="teletext" />
		<rating system="VCHIP">
			<value>TV-14</value>
		</rating>
	</programme>
	<programme start="20111027180000 -0400" stop="20111027183000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">The Office</title>
		<sub-title lang="en">Nepotism</sub-title>
		<desc lang="en">Michael refuses to fire the new office assistant (Evan Peters) when people complain about his bad attitude; Pam tries to impress Jim by pulling an office prank.</desc>
		<credits>
			<actor>Steve Carell</actor>
			<actor>Rainn Wilson</actor>
			<actor>John Krasinski</actor>
			<actor>Jenna Fischer</actor>
			<actor>B.J. Novak</actor>
			<actor>Ed Helms</actor>
			<actor>Leslie David Baker</actor>
			<actor>Brian Baumgartner</actor>
			<actor>Kate Flannery</actor>
			<actor>Angela Kinsey</actor>
			<actor>Oscar Nunez</actor>
			<actor>Phyllis Smith</actor>
			<actor>Paul Lieberstein</actor>
			<actor>Mindy Kaling</actor>
			<actor>Creed Bratton</actor>
			<actor>Craig Robinson</actor>
			<actor>Ellie Kemper</actor>
			<guest>Kathy Bates</guest>
			<guest>Evan Peters</guest>
			<guest>Zach Woods</guest>
		</credits>
		<date>20100923</date>
		<category lang="en">Comedy</category>
		<category lang="en">Episodic</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<episode-num system="onscreen">0701</episode-num>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP00726133.0142</episode-num>
		<video>
			<aspect>16:9</aspect>
			<quality>HDTV</quality>
		</video>
		<audio>
			<stereo>stereo</stereo>
		</audio>
		<previously-shown start="20100923000000" />
		<subtitles type="teletext" />
		<rating system="VCHIP">
			<value>TV-14</value>
		</rating>
	</programme>

So even thought the guide is showing no data before "The Office" there is data there. Actually quite a bit more.

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by kricker

"The Office" at 6:00PM is actually on WVLTDT2 which is listed as:

<channel id="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>20 WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>20</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT2 (WVLT-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>MyNetworkTV Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>

Here is the listing with the item before it:

	<programme start="20111027173000 -0400" stop="20111027180000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">Excused</title>
		<sub-title lang="en">No Mo Yo Bro</sub-title>
		<credits>
			<presenter>Iliza Shlesinger</presenter>
		</credits>
		<date>20111011</date>
		<category lang="en">Episodic</category>
		<category lang="en">Game Show</category>
		<category lang="en">Reality</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<episode-num system="onscreen">1039</episode-num>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP01436521.0032</episode-num>
		<video>
			<aspect>16:9</aspect>
			<quality>HDTV</quality>
		</video>
		<audio>
			<stereo>stereo</stereo>
		</audio>
		<previously-shown start="20111011000000" />
		<subtitles type="teletext" />
		<rating system="VCHIP">
			<value>TV-14</value>
		</rating>
	</programme>
	<programme start="20111027180000 -0400" stop="20111027183000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">The Office</title>
		<sub-title lang="en">Nepotism</sub-title>
		<desc lang="en">Michael refuses to fire the new office assistant (Evan Peters) when people complain about his bad attitude; Pam tries to impress Jim by pulling an office prank.</desc>
		<credits>
			<actor>Steve Carell</actor>
			<actor>Rainn Wilson</actor>
			<actor>John Krasinski</actor>
			<actor>Jenna Fischer</actor>
			<actor>B.J. Novak</actor>
			<actor>Ed Helms</actor>
			<actor>Leslie David Baker</actor>
			<actor>Brian Baumgartner</actor>
			<actor>Kate Flannery</actor>
			<actor>Angela Kinsey</actor>
			<actor>Oscar Nunez</actor>
			<actor>Phyllis Smith</actor>
			<actor>Paul Lieberstein</actor>
			<actor>Mindy Kaling</actor>
			<actor>Creed Bratton</actor>
			<actor>Craig Robinson</actor>
			<actor>Ellie Kemper</actor>
			<guest>Kathy Bates</guest>
			<guest>Evan Peters</guest>
			<guest>Zach Woods</guest>
		</credits>
		<date>20100923</date>
		<category lang="en">Comedy</category>
		<category lang="en">Episodic</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<episode-num system="onscreen">0701</episode-num>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP00726133.0142</episode-num>
		<video>
			<aspect>16:9</aspect>
			<quality>HDTV</quality>
		</video>
		<audio>
			<stereo>stereo</stereo>
		</audio>
		<previously-shown start="20100923000000" />
		<subtitles type="teletext" />
		<rating system="VCHIP">
			<value>TV-14</value>
		</rating>
	</programme>

Ok, but the plugin would be adding these entries to a channel named "WVLTDT2" and not "MYVLT" but "MYVLT" is the channel showing up in your EPG. Is WVLTDT2 not in the EPG? If not, then did you change the EPG source for the tuner?

It seems if you're going to use mc2xml then you'll have to remap the channel numbers - obviously the channel numbers being pulled from the MS server are incorrect. Out of curiosity, if you give me the zip code and lineup in question, I'll pull the listings using the donator's version of mc2xml and see how the channel numbers look with it.

[kricker]

Everything is from a fresh setup of mc2xml and your plugin with a fresh channel scan. No re-mappings were done. The channel shows up as MyVLT not as WVLTDT2.

The zipcode I used to pull all the recent data was 37920. My dad's actual zipcode is 37862, but that yielded even stranger channels. 37920 is for the zip code of Knoxville TN, the closest major city to him. I'm interested in trying my zipcode 37922 which is just the other side of Knoxville to see what crazy channel listing I get then.

If you like, I can give you access the the webserver for that install to view the guide.

I found another Gap in the guide where it says there is no data, but there is actual data in the xmltv.xml

	<programme start="20111029100000 -0400" stop="20111029103000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">Made in Hollywood: Teen Edition</title>
		<sub-title lang="en">Sound Design for Motion Pictures</sub-title>
		<desc lang="en">The cast of ``Moneyball''; careers in sound design for movies and TV.</desc>
		<credits>
			<presenter>Kylie Erica Mar</presenter>
		</credits>
		<category lang="en">Children</category>
		<category lang="en">Current Events</category>
		<category lang="en">Episodic</category>
		<category lang="en">Kids</category>
		<category lang="en">News</category>
		<category lang="en">Other</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<episode-num system="onscreen">605</episode-num>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP00862275.0119</episode-num>
		<video>
			<aspect>16:9</aspect>
			<quality>HDTV</quality>
		</video>
		<audio>
			<stereo>stereo</stereo>
		</audio>
		<new />
		<subtitles type="teletext" />
		<rating system="VCHIP">
			<value>TV-G</value>
		</rating>
	</programme>
	<programme start="20111029103000 -0400" stop="20111029110000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">Missing</title>
		<desc lang="en">The cases of 24 missing children; posting photos and videos online; dealing with strangers and activities; the school bus stop; being home alone.</desc>
		<credits>
			<presenter>Alex Paen</presenter>
		</credits>
		<category lang="en">Episodic</category>
		<category lang="en">News</category>
		<category lang="en">Public Affairs</category>
		<category lang="en">Reality</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<episode-num system="onscreen">M674</episode-num>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP00590176.0413</episode-num>
		<audio>
			<stereo>stereo</stereo>
		</audio>
		<new />
		<subtitles type="teletext" />
		<rating system="VCHIP">
			<value>TV-G</value>
		</rating>
	</programme>
	<programme start="20111029110000 -0400" stop="20111029113000 -0400" channel="I20.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<title lang="en">Titans All Access</title>
		<desc lang="en">Stories about players and their families and one-on-one chats with players. Hosted by Mike Keith and Mike Reinfeldt</desc>
		<category lang="en">Current Events</category>
		<category lang="en">Football</category>
		<category lang="en">News</category>
		<category lang="en">Series</category>
		<category lang="en">Sports</category>
		<episode-num system="dd_progid">SH01306803.0000</episode-num>
		<previously-shown />
	</programme>

The Show "Made in Hollywood: Teen Edition" is in the guide on October 29th at 10:00 am til 10:30 am. The show "Titans All Access" is on October 29th at 11:00 am til 11:30 am. The show that is missing is ironically enough called "Missing" on October 29th at 10:30 am til 11:00 am.

[kricker]

I used mc2xml to grab the TER channels for my zipcode 37922. They should be pretty much the same channels as I pulled with 37920. I am just 5 minutes or so away from that zipcode. The list has totally different numbers for the channels. In this list WVLTDT2 is listed as:

	<channel id="I56.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>56 WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>56</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT2 (WVLT-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>MyNetworkTV Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>

The numbers that mc2xml grabs seem arbitrary at best.

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by kricker

I used mc2xml to grab the TER channels for my zipcode 37922. They should be pretty much the same channels as I pulled with 37920. I am just 5 minutes or so away from that zipcode. The list has totally different numbers for the channels. In this list WVLTDT2 is listed as:

	<channel id="I56.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>56 WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>56</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT2 (WVLT-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>MyNetworkTV Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>

The numbers that mc2xml grabs seem arbitrary at best.

Something is going on because there is no way mc2xml is inserting this channel as "MYVLT" - it's simply not possible as none of those <display-name> nodes contain "MYVLT", and that's where the data is pulled from.

I think the channels are being added to your lineup from the OTA scan and I'm not sure where it's pulling the EPG data from (maybe from EIT data found in the scan)? Either way, it's definitely not using mc2xml to set the lineup. The fact that channels are listed using OTA numbers (8-1, etc.) also suggests that mc2xml isn't setting that data because it would be using the channel numbers from the xml - i.e. channel 56 for the entry above is how mc2xml would input that channel into a lineup.

[kricker]

Should I not do a channel scan after I choose the lineup? I thought I would have to in order to tune the channels.

[Slugger]

So it looks like the new Microsoft service has the right channel numbers?

	<channel id="I2.1.38565045.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WETPDT</display-name>
		<display-name>2.1 WETPDT</display-name>
		<display-name>2.1</display-name>
		<display-name>41 WETPDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WETPDT (WETP-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>PBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I2.2.195991085.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WETPDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>2.2 WETPDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>2.2</display-name>
		<display-name>41 WETPDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WETPDT2 (WETP-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>PBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I2.3.200177017.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WETPDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>2.3 WETPDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>2.3</display-name>
		<display-name>41 WETPDT3 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WETPDT3 (WETP-DT3)</display-name>
		<display-name>PBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I6.1.28457916.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WATEDT</display-name>
		<display-name>6.1 WATEDT</display-name>
		<display-name>6.1</display-name>
		<display-name>26 WATEDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WATEDT (WATE-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>ABC Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I6.2.255384553.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WATEDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>6.2 WATEDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>6.2</display-name>
		<display-name>26 WATEDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WATEDT2 (WATE-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I7.1.38562402.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WMAKDT</display-name>
		<display-name>7.1 WMAKDT</display-name>
		<display-name>7.1</display-name>
		<display-name>WMAKDT (WMAK-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I7.2.195990815.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WMAKDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>7.2 WMAKDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>7.2</display-name>
		<display-name>WMAKDT2 (WMAK-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I8.1.28455993.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT</display-name>
		<display-name>8.1 WVLTDT</display-name>
		<display-name>8.1</display-name>
		<display-name>30 WVLTDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT (WVLT-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>CBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I8.2.38469855.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>8.2 WVLTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>8.2</display-name>
		<display-name>30 WVLTDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLTDT2 (WVLT-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>MyNetworkTV Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I10.1.28456829.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WBIRDT</display-name>
		<display-name>10.1 WBIRDT</display-name>
		<display-name>10.1</display-name>
		<display-name>WBIRDT (WBIR-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>NBC Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I10.2.44323697.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WBIRDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>10.2 WBIRDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>10.2</display-name>
		<display-name>WBIRDT2 (WBIR-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I13.1.38469857.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WLOSDT</display-name>
		<display-name>13.1 WLOSDT</display-name>
		<display-name>13.1</display-name>
		<display-name>WLOSDT (WLOS-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>ABC Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I13.2.195990542.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WLOSDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>13.2 WLOSDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>13.2</display-name>
		<display-name>WLOSDT2 (WLOS-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>MyNetworkTV Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I13.3.195991178.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WLOSDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>13.3 WLOSDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>13.3</display-name>
		<display-name>WLOS-DT3 56</display-name>
		<display-name>ABC Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I15.1.43489481.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WKOPDT</display-name>
		<display-name>15.1 WKOPDT</display-name>
		<display-name>15.1</display-name>
		<display-name>17 WKOPDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WKOPDT (WKOP-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>PBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I15.2.43489480.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WKOPDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>15.2 WKOPDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>15.2</display-name>
		<display-name>17 WKOPDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WKOPDT2 (WKOP-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>PBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I15.3.200177024.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WKOPDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>15.3 WKOPDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>15.3</display-name>
		<display-name>17 WKOPDT3 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WKOPDT3 (WKOP-DT3)</display-name>
		<display-name>PBS Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I20.1.39818572.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WBXXDT</display-name>
		<display-name>20.1 WBXXDT</display-name>
		<display-name>20.1</display-name>
		<display-name>WBXXDT (WBXX-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>CW Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I39.1.40510565.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WEMTDT</display-name>
		<display-name>39.1 WEMTDT</display-name>
		<display-name>39.1</display-name>
		<display-name>38 WEMTDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WEMTDT (WEMT-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>Fox Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I39.2.208091399.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WEMTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>39.2 WEMTDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>39.2</display-name>
		<display-name>38 WEMTDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WEMTDT2 (WEMT-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Fox Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I43.1.38565047.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WTNZDT</display-name>
		<display-name>43.1 WTNZDT</display-name>
		<display-name>43.1</display-name>
		<display-name>34 WTNZDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WTNZDT (WTNZ-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>Fox Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I43.2.44565821.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WTNZDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>43.2 WTNZDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>43.2</display-name>
		<display-name>34 WTNZDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WTNZDT2 (WTNZ-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I48.1.218985247.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WVLRDT</display-name>
		<display-name>48.1 WVLRDT</display-name>
		<display-name>48.1</display-name>
		<display-name>WVLRDT (WVLR-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I54.1.39818573.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WPXKDT</display-name>
		<display-name>54.1 WPXKDT</display-name>
		<display-name>54.1</display-name>
		<display-name>23 WPXKDT fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WPXKDT (WPXK-DT)</display-name>
		<display-name>ION Affiliate</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I54.2.195990981.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WPXKDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>54.2 WPXKDT2</display-name>
		<display-name>54.2</display-name>
		<display-name>23 WPXKDT2 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WPXKDT2 (WPXK-DT2)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>
	<channel id="I54.3.195990711.microsoft.com">
		<display-name>WPXKDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>54.3 WPXKDT3</display-name>
		<display-name>54.3</display-name>
		<display-name>23 WPXKDT3 fcc</display-name>
		<display-name>WPXKDT3 (WPXK-DT3)</display-name>
		<display-name>Independent</display-name>
	</channel>

Even still, I think you just need to remap the channels as found in the OTA scan to those in the Sage EPG or mc2xml lineup and then it should be fine.

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by kricker

Should I not do a channel scan after I choose the lineup?

No idea. I've only ever been cable/satellite - never used an OTA source. I assume you have to do a scan but I really don't know anything about how that works in Sage. Either way, the channels found in the scan aren't matching anything in the EPG data you're grabbing from mc2xml, which is why you're seeing gaps. I can almost guarantee that the channels and data loaded by mc2xml have no gaps in them, except the lineup you're using is not the one you setup with mc2xml, but whatever was scanned in. There's a disconnect somewhere that needs to be corrected, I just don't know how to correct it.

[kricker]

Those listing look perfect. That sure would make things nicer.

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by kricker

Those listing look perfect. That sure would make things nicer.

Either way, my plugin can't use the listings data from the new MS service, but I still don't think it would fix the problem you're seeing. If you PM me details on how to login to your web UI I can do a couple of quick checks to confirm my theory that the lineup you're using isn't the same as the lineup you configured with mc2xml

[Slugger]

So I took a look and the channels in the lineup aren't from the mc2xml lineup. I have no idea where it's pulling them from, but it's not using the lineup you configured with mc2xml. Again, I'm guessing it has something to do with the scan, but I really don't have much knowledge in the OTA realm so I don't know where to point you to next.

I'm guessing this is why you were having problems with the Sage EPG server as well. I doubt you're pulling data from it either. I'm guessing it's pulling EIT data and you need get it to use data from the EPG server or the configured EPG plugin. Fix that disconnect and you should be set.

[HelenWeathers]

Just FYI.

I was getting very unreliable data re the OTA for my zip code with gaps like kricker was seeing. I did do a channel scan to lock in the freqs I was receiving. It may be that the data that did show up was being pulled from the OTA stream and not mc2xml.

I use two guides on my main SageTV system (I have DirecTV also) and was able to remap my 2.1 OTA to the DirecTV Ch 2 HD listings and my 4.1 OTA to the DirecTV Ch 4 HD listings etc.

That filled in the gaps for me and got me data from the mc2xml listings.

On my backup SageTV system (one without a DirecTV hookup) I used an old Hauppauge card with s-video input and set it up as a dummy DirecTV source so I could get the DirecTV guide to load to use that data for re-mapping channels for the OTA cards in that backup unit.


Slugger, I looked at the new microsoft guide and it looks nice. I know you don't support it yet. I did see valid episode IDs for many of the listings.

If you decide to test the new microsoft guide feed and need a tester let me know.

[HelenWeathers]

It looks like there may just be some bad data in the OTA legacy guide for my zip code (and maybe others). From the xmltv.xml files:

Old MS Guide (Legacy):
<channel id="I44.28460754.microsoft.com">
<display-name>WPLGDT</display-name>
<display-name>44 WPLGDT</display-name>
<display-name>44</display-name>
<display-name>WPLGDT (WPLG-DT)</display-name>
<display-name>ABC Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>


New MS Guide:
<channel id="I10.1.28460754.microsoft.com">
<display-name>WPLGDT</display-name>
<display-name>10.1 WPLGDT</display-name>
<display-name>10.1</display-name>
<display-name>WPLGDT (WPLG-DT)</display-name>
<display-name>ABC Affiliate</display-name>
</channel>

Perhaps I could have mapped 44 WPLG from the old guide to my 10.1 channel.

[kricker]

Thanks for all the help slugger. I've got an idea I can try. I'll start fresh again, but not do a channel scan after selecting the source. Then I can see what data I have from mc2xml by just enabling the channels whether they tune or not will not matter at that point. Then I can map them by hand.