What tuner sources do you use?

[johnboatcat]

Originally Posted by sflamm

out of curiosity how do you know there are copy once flags on everything?
that is highly unusual...

In the Brighthouse Network section of DSL reports they talk about it.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/brighthouse

[sflamm]

You should check yourself... Comcast made similar statements but it wasn't reality.

[johnboatcat]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

it might make the best sense to go with a cablecard tuner for the bulk of recording, and a single HD-PVR/Colossus for the premiums.

Agree completely, but with the flags I would have to go with WMC and lose my ComSkipToMyLoo. NaNa! I would step down in quality before I would accept the comm's back. I also travel and take my recordings with me. Much harder to do with WMC. Brighthouse and TWC are both flagging all I understand.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by johnboatcat

Agree completely, but with the flags I would have to go with WMC and lose my ComSkipToMyLoo. NaNa! I would step down in quality before I would accept the comm's back. I also travel and take my recordings with me. Much harder to do with WMC. Brighthouse and TWC are both flagging all I understand.

Personally, I'd avoid giving such a company any of my business then. Honestly, it's just TV, and there ARE other options. I'm lucky to be in a good provider's area (Charter), but even so, I'm just now researching switching to it from my R-5000HD dish network setup.

[johnboatcat]

BHNtechXpert "All channnels with the exception of your locals are copy once."

This is all in Brighthouse CFL so far.

Here is the discussion link with links to other threads, but it seems that the flags are copy once.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...-as-copy-once-

"said by JL06:

3) Why does BHN set the "copy once" flag on standard cable channels (e.g. Comedy Central, ESPN) instead of just protected or premium channels (e.g. HBO)? From what I can gather there is no standard and some providers reserve the copy protection for premium channels.
My understanding as to why Brighthouse does it is due to the content providers requiring it, partly as a part of their contract negotiations with Brighthouse/Time Warner. At least, BHNtechXpert explained to me that a major part of the reason was due to content providers."

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r277...eedback-Wanted

[johnboatcat]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Personally, I'd avoid giving such a company any of my business then. .

I agree, but it is already wired into the condo as part of our monthly maint. fee. For a year it will only cost me $1 extra and after 1/1/15 then $3/month. Cheaper than a cable card and the recordings are portable.

[sflamm]

For a year it will only cost me $1 extra

Guess this is a case of you get what you pay for

Using HD-PVR/Colossus instead of a a HDHR Prime will be much more expensive equipment-wise (only $150 for Prime and a cable card is usually free from a cable provider)

[johnboatcat]

Originally Posted by sflamm

Guess this is a case of you get what you pay for

Using HD-PVR/Colossus instead of a a HDHR Prime will be much more expensive equipment-wise (only $150 for Prime and a cable card is usually free from a cable provider)

Right again, but if I use a Prime I am limited to WMC because of the copy once flags aren't I? Also you can pick up a Colossus now in the $130/140.00 area and record from HDMI through a splitter.

[sflamm]

With copy-once you are limited regardless of who your provider is....
I think what Fuzzy was suggesting (and I agree) is that choosing a different provider would be a better option... far less hassle, a better experience for you and cheaper hardware-wise.

Even at $130 per single tuner with Colossus you need 3x where a single HDHR Prime give you 3 tuners and the setup is much simpler - no need to open up your PC and have slots etc... Definitely would recommend HD-PVRs over Colossus (HDPVR is a single tuner as well price-wise)>

Also if you buy HD-PVRs you likely want to get the older 1212 model - the newer ones are known to have more issues...

[johnboatcat]

I am stuck with Brighthouse as I have already been forced to pay for it through my monthly maintenance fee. Also no Sat option in a condo. Also the HD box has a really good signal and more stations than I had before and is eventually going to only cost $3/month for HD.

I have two cards that will work fine. 2250 using one tuner and ATI single tuner. I just need to add one more and a USB uirt to control them. I may just pick up a used 2250 for compatibility sake. It seems to work very well in my system and does not use a lot of resources.

A HDHR Prime with cable cards will not let me use SageTV because of the copy once flags.

"Also if you buy HD-PVRs you likely want to get the older 1212 model - the newer ones are known to have more issues..."

I have noticed all the issues as well. The Cisco box does not have composite and the 1212 does not have HDMI.

[KryptoNyte]

What's the exact model number of your Brighthouse Cisco set-top-box?

On second thought, maybe just a start a new thread to address your specific issue.

[johnboatcat]

Cisco DTA 170 HD. HDMI and analog coax out only. Has extension ir receiver. About 4" X 5". Must call to get hit to activate. About 125 channels and 35 of them HD. The regular channels are about 30% better quality than with bare cable before and no box. No guide of any sort. Trainable remote TV on and volume.