Sage Client running on a $60 ($48) system

[mikejaner]

Originally Posted by jchiso

I had the decoders installed and configured, but I could not designate them for use in Sage. I'm use STV3, and while the 'List All Decoders' option exists for h.264, it is not available for MPEG2. I changed to STV7, designated the LAV decoders and attempted playback of an MPEG2 HD clip. Unfortunately, it would not play at all ...

Hmmmm.
Here's screenshots of what I see http://imgur.com/a/qzfwl
Do you have these same screens in sagetv?

[jchiso]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

... Do you have these same screens in sagetv?

Thanks for the screenshots. The only difference I had was Deinterlacing Mode, which had been set to auto. I changed it and it displayed some (OTA HD) video, but it was jerky and then stopped altogether ...

[mikejaner]

Originally Posted by jchiso

Thanks for the screenshots. The only difference I had was Deinterlacing Mode, which had been set to auto. I changed it and it displayed some (OTA HD) video, but it was jerky and then stopped altogether ...

Do you think it could be your wireless? I plugged mine into a USB Ethernet adapter during all my testing to eliminate that issue.

[mechling-burgh]

Everything seems to run fine on mine, but again i have an hp stream not what you guys have. The only thing I can't seem to get to play are my blu-ray rips but I,m guessing its the network since I don't have a full size usb port like you lucky dogs to add a usb network card.

[jchiso]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

Do you think it could be your wireless? I plugged mine into a USB Ethernet adapter during all my testing to eliminate that issue.

I had not even thought of that, but I will give it a shot. I assumed that was not the problem because at one point I had the tablet within about 15" of the access point, and the wifi adapter really does a surprisingly good job, in general ...

[jchiso]

On another note, I did run a bunch of batch encodes on Handbrake this weekend, which the tablet completed at a rate just slightly better than the content's run time. These were 720p mkvs with video quality at 23, auto-passthrough AC3 5.1 audio, OTA HD sources ...

[valnar]

How does this compare to the more expensive Intel NUC in the other HD300 thread? Does it have bitstreaming issues with HDMI or any other problems?

Even if they were the same price, it seems having a built-in LCD would be a better idea for a travel Sageclient, especially when you have to deal with the captive portal in hotel rooms.

[tvmaster2]

has anyone tried running Placeshifter on one of these? Results?

[Wirenut]

It works pretty well on my home network. Haven't tried it on the road. Just loaded place shifter right out of the box and it works. Haven't tried the HDMI out or anything, but its pretty zippy.

[jchiso]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

has anyone tried running Placeshifter on one of these? Results?

Just tried it. It runs about as well as it does on other platforms for me, which is to say "not so well". You could watch h264 .mkv and mp4 encodes "passibly" if you have a good connection, but higher-bitrate stuff just chokes the system. I have not found an environment where ANY system runs Placeshifter satisfactorily ...

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by jchiso

Just tried it. It runs about as well as it does on other platforms for me, which is to say "not so well". You could watch h264 .mkv and mp4 encodes "passibly" if you have a good connection, but higher-bitrate stuff just chokes the system. I have not found an environment where ANY system runs Placeshifter satisfactorily ...

yeah, that's true. I don't record at 1080 anymore based on that. 720 only. And AirVideo is pretty good regardless of bandwidth, probably more reliable than Placeshifter, but it's for playback only - so no scheduling, etc., and it's iOS only. If anyone gets to a Starbucks with the Winbook/Placeshifter combo, let us know.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Wirenut

It works pretty well on my home network. Haven't tried it on the road. Just loaded place shifter right out of the box and it works. Haven't tried the HDMI out or anything, but its pretty zippy.

do you record at 720 or 1080? let us know if you hook up remotely how the response is. I was looking at a HP Stream 7 today, since MS is clearing them out, and they're the closest thing to the Winbook.

[jchiso]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

... If anyone gets to a Starbucks with the Winbook/Placeshifter combo, let us know.

I will definitely try that because I was at Starbucks yesterday and the "Google Starbucks" wifi was noticeably faster. I had my notebook with me (running Linux) and connected to and played back some ripped DVD (mkv) content and it was surprisingly good. I generally only connect to placeshifter to schedule recordings, but now I'd like to see what kind of performance I can get out of the WinBook ...

[Wirenut]

I use a hdhomerun and two Hdpvrs from cable boxes at 720p

Works OK. I mean. Its watchable. Its fine for me. For 60 bones.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by jchiso

I will definitely try that because I was at Starbucks yesterday and the "Google Starbucks" wifi was noticeably faster. I had my notebook with me (running Linux) and connected to and played back some ripped DVD (mkv) content and it was surprisingly good. I generally only connect to placeshifter to schedule recordings, but now I'd like to see what kind of performance I can get out of the WinBook ...

ok, I caved and grabbed one. Initial Placeshifter tests via no-ip DNS server not great - a bit choppy playback. Not sure why yet.
CPU usage at 10-20% max, memory use near 60%. 1280x720 recordings fare the worst, converted files (720x400) and some online/PlayOn files fare better.
Throughput tops out at 1200 kbps, going as low as 700kbps, so that shouldn't be a problem. Kinda miffed

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by mechling-burgh

Everything seems to run fine on mine, but again i have an hp stream not what you guys have. The only thing I can't seem to get to play are my blu-ray rips but I,m guessing its the network since I don't have a full size usb port like you lucky dogs to add a usb network card.

how do you connect things to the Stream? I see there's only one, micro USB port. Can you get video out of that somehow to a larger screen? Flash drives? Can you do those things at the same time with a cable/dongle of some kind?
thanks

[mechling-burgh]

The stream is not the best choice for tv output there is a usb adapter that will go to a tv but it needs to compress the signal and you can't use the usb port for charging at the same time, your running off the battery when using it. The winbook would be much better choice because of the ports that come with it. I didn't buy the stream for sage I bought it as an impulse buy and started using it in the kitchen when I made dinner as an after thought.

[mikejaner]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

ok, I caved and grabbed one. Initial Placeshifter tests via no-ip DNS server not great - a bit choppy playback. Not sure why yet.
CPU usage at 10-20% max, memory use near 60%. 1280x720 recordings fare the worst, converted files (720x400) and some online/PlayOn files fare better.
Throughput tops out at 1200 kbps, going as low as 700kbps, so that shouldn't be a problem. Kinda miffed

Can you change the decoder for place shifter? If so, change to the ones we were talking about earlier in the thread.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

Can you change the decoder for place shifter? If so, change to the ones we were talking about earlier in the thread.

I assume that had no effect on your server, clients or media extender performance? The Winbook is a whimsical thing I'm trying to justify, but only a bit.

PS - just tried watching some video on a full battery charge: 3:30 minutes from start to finish, full screen video running Windows Media Player at full brightness, essentially - from a USB flash drive.

anyone get better battery life than this?

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by mechling-burgh

The stream is not the best choice for tv output there is a usb adapter that will go to a tv but it needs to compress the signal and you can't use the usb port for charging at the same time, your running off the battery when using it. The winbook would be much better choice because of the ports that come with it. I didn't buy the stream for sage I bought it as an impulse buy and started using it in the kitchen when I made dinner as an after thought.

see my note on the Winbook's battery running video. How is the Stream in that regard....have you tested from full to empty, watching video?