Linux server questions

[BitBass]

I've been using the Windows version all along, so I need to ask some questions about how SageTV behaves in linux. I'm familiar enough with getting around in linux.

First, how do you manage SageTV inside linux? For Windows I just open up the installed client on the desktop. Can't really do that in a headless linux server. Should I just point an extender at the server and run through the setup there? Is there a better way?

Any web tools, like BMT, that will work at the moment?

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by BitBass

I've been using the Windows version all along, so I need to ask some questions about how SageTV behaves in linux. I'm familiar enough with getting around in linux.

First, how do you manage SageTV inside linux? For Windows I just open up the installed client on the desktop. Can't really do that in a headless linux server. Should I just point an extender at the server and run through the setup there? Is there a better way?

Any web tools, like BMT, that will work at the moment?

All the plugins (unless they are windows specific) will just work the same on Linux, so BMT does work.

On linux the server is headless (no ui), so you can use the client placeshifter and connect that way.

[BitBass]

Ok, the Windows Placeshifter client (7.1.9) connects to my Windows SageTV server, but not to the linux one. Doesn't look like a firewall issue, as it's not on by default on Ubuntu 14.04. Also appears to be running in ps on the linux server, so I'm pretty sure it's started. Should the older Placeshifter be able to connect to the newer server?

[wnjj]

Originally Posted by BitBass

Ok, the Windows Placeshifter client (7.1.9) connects to my Windows SageTV server, but not to the linux one. Doesn't look like a firewall issue, as it's not on by default on Ubuntu 14.04. Also appears to be running in ps on the linux server, so I'm pretty sure it's started. Should the older Placeshifter be able to connect to the newer server?

Looks to me like no based upon this in SageTVConnection.java:

if (clientMajVer > Sage.CLIENT_COMPATIBLE_MAJOR_VERSION ||
          (clientMajVer == Sage.CLIENT_COMPATIBLE_MAJOR_VERSION

and this in Sage.java

  public static final byte CLIENT_COMPATIBLE_MAJOR_VERSION = 9;

Try patching your client up to V9. You'll need the new Sage & Lucene jars.

[BitBass]

Ok, downloaded the VS2005 built zip file, replaced the placeshifter.exe and tried to connect. Still no go. Is there any other way to make sure the server is actually functioning?

[BitBass]

Found the following in the /opt/sagetv/server/sagetv_0.txt file

thrown java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
Sat 9/12 16:30:35.660 [main@7a704cf3] java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
   at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.14)
   at org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriterConfig.<init>(IndexWriterConfig.java:151)
   at sage.Wizard$LuceneIndex.<init>(Wizard.java:9052)
   at sage.Wizard.getShowIndex(Wizard.java:9627)
   at sage.Wizard.saveDBFile(Wizard.java:7711)
   at sage.Wizard.startSeq(Wizard.java:2596)
   at sage.Wizard.init(Wizard.java:664)
   at sage.Wizard.prime(Wizard.java:467)
   at sage.SageTV.<init>(SageTV.java:404)
   at sage.Sage.startup(Sage.java:1173)
   at sage.Sage.main(Sage.java:955)
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
   at java.lang.ref.Reference.<init>(libgcj.so.14)
   at java.lang.ref.WeakReference.<init>(libgcj.so.14)
   at org.apache.lucene.util.WeakIdentityMap$IdentityWeakReference.<init>(WeakIdentityMap.java:112)
   at org.apache.lucene.util.WeakIdentityMap.get(WeakIdentityMap.java:77)
   at org.apache.lucene.util.VirtualMethod.getImplementationDistance(VirtualMethod.java:95)
   at org.apache.lucene.util.VirtualMethod.compareImplementationDistance(VirtualMethod.java:146)
   at org.apache.lucene.search.Similarity.<init>(Similarity.java:538)
   at org.apache.lucene.search.DefaultSimilarity.<init>(DefaultSimilarity.java:23)
   at org.apache.lucene.search.Similarity.<clinit>(Similarity.java:544)
   at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.14)
   ...10 more
Error with DB file:java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError, attempting to restore backup.

Looks like something didn't get installed as part of the dpkg?

[BitBass]

Ok, looks like I might have it working now. I downloaded the old 7.1 install over top and then reinstalled the 9.0 over the top of that. I'm now connected to it.

I might have more questions soon.

[BitBass]

Recording directories. Do I need to map CIFS shares to a mount point and then add the mount point into SageTV as a recording directory? I'm guessing yes, so I'm going to start working in this direction. Just looking for some confirmation.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by BitBass

Recording directories. Do I need to map CIFS shares to a mount point and then add the mount point into SageTV as a recording directory? I'm guessing yes, so I'm going to start working in this direction. Just looking for some confirmation.

If you are storing your shows all on the linux server, there's no reason to actually use CIFS at all. placeshifter, extenders, clients etc will be able to read the files directly via the sagetv connection, they do not need to access the files directly. There is only one reason I can think of to give clients direct access, and that is for Comskip (.edl) playback. currently would only work for sagetvclient if the client can access the recordings at the same path the sagetv server accesses them. I would REALLY like to get rid of this requirement, and have schemed a BIT on it, but haven't written a single line of code in that direction yet.

[BitBass]

I'm storing everything to an Unraid share. On the Windows server, I have the unraid share mapped, and it's always worked fine. I'm happy doing it that way, but it sounds like that isn't an option under linux for now. Right?

Also, I need to keep saying thanks for all the hard work everyone's doing on this. It's great to see the start of something.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by BitBass

I'm storing everything to an Unraid share. On the Windows server, I have the unraid share mapped, and it's always worked fine. I'm happy doing it that way, but it sounds like that isn't an option under linux for now. Right?

Also, I need to keep saying thanks for all the hard work everyone's doing on this. It's great to see the start of something.

I'm not familiar enough with Linux to tell you what the best way to set it up is. If Linux can access your unraid shares without mounting, by simply storing it as \\UnRAID\Recordings\ then that would be the most universal way to go.

[jpwegas]

Originally Posted by BitBass

I'm storing everything to an Unraid share. On the Windows server, I have the unraid share mapped, and it's always worked fine. I'm happy doing it that way, but it sounds like that isn't an option under linux for now. Right?

If you mount the unRaid CIFs share on the Linux server and point your recording directory setting to somewhere under the mount point you should be able to do this. I suppose saving recordings on a network share could have performance issues in some situations, but if you aren't seeing any performance issues when recording from your Windows box I wouldn't expect any with the same setup under Linux.

--John

[Narflex]

Originally Posted by wnjj

Looks to me like no based upon this in SageTVConnection.java:

if (clientMajVer > Sage.CLIENT_COMPATIBLE_MAJOR_VERSION ||
          (clientMajVer == Sage.CLIENT_COMPATIBLE_MAJOR_VERSION

and this in Sage.java

  public static final byte CLIENT_COMPATIBLE_MAJOR_VERSION = 9;

Try patching your client up to V9. You'll need the new Sage & Lucene jars.

FYI, these compatibility checks only apply to SageTVClient...they do NOT apply to the Placeshifter/extenders. The Placeshifter/extenders *should* be fully compatible (as long as the server is newer or equal to the client...but even then there's lots of leeway on it)