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Old 07-18-2004, 01:27 AM
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NVDVD crashing Sage and issues

I recently tried to use NVDVD 3.0 with VMR9 rendering in Sage
but I did something different than normal

I disabled hardware acceleration in the NVDVD decoder

when I went into Sage and tried to use the nvidia video decoder with VMR9 rendering
SageTV crashes immediately

I went opened NVDVD 3(did not change anything) then restarted Sage
I tried it once more just to make sure that was the issue and started to play a recorded show
this time after opening nvdvd
the video played for a second but then I tried to change the volume and crash

I was wanted to warn anyone using nvdvd and to see if others were having this same issue

with hardware acceleration on in NVDVD Sage is fine

also I tried to use nvidia video without hardware acceleration but this time with overlay

although this did not crash Sage like VMR9 did
I got black bars on the sides of the video after fast fowarding

I am going to foward this to Sage
but all other decoders seem to work fine without hardware acceleration/DXVA

and this is second time nvDVD has caused Sage to crash
(using the nvidia audio decoder and fast fowarding does it as well)

here is the log
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Old 07-18-2004, 07:24 AM
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Hey, I have been using NVDVD 3 for a few days with VMR9 and hardware acceleration on and I have not had any problems as of yet. Overlay works fine too.
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Old 07-18-2004, 10:14 AM
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Hey walker. Mine crashes consisntently after every 30 to 40 minutes of viewing. Using NVDVD, vmr9 and hardware acceleration.
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Old 07-18-2004, 11:16 AM
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Since NVDVD 3.0 is still in beta, have you tried it with 2.55 to see if the same thing happens?
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Old 07-18-2004, 06:18 PM
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carmat3

do not use the audio decoder from nvidia that will stop that

JUC

the problems I mentioned were for hardware acceleration off in NVDVD not on
I have no problems when it is on

it is the fact that it crashes Sage
that bothers me

mlbdude
no, not yet
I did not think about that
but I assuming it will be no different
cause it was 2.55 that originally crashed Sage for me when using the nvidia audio decoder and not the beta version 3 (I am sure that it crashes SageTV as well when using that audio decoder but never tried )

I will try it out though
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Old 07-18-2004, 06:50 PM
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I've always used NVDVD 3.0 with hardware acceleration off and do not have those issues. I also use it this way with ffdshow.

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Old 07-18-2004, 06:56 PM
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using overlay or VMR9 ?
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Old 07-18-2004, 07:22 PM
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1) Unless you were on the official Forceware Beta, the origins and quality of the Forceware that you are using are quesionable, and if I correctly remember version numbers I've seen quoted, the "unofficial" ones are several revs behind the latest ones Beta testers had.

2) I used nVDVD 3 (same ones as you kny AFAIK) for weeks, with ffdshow (so no DXVA) and VMR9 w/o a hickup. Audio decoders varied but included, nVDVD 3, Sonic, AC3Filter.

Of course since the re-install, I've been quite happy with my simple Sonic Cineplayer DXVA -> VMR9 config.
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Old 07-18-2004, 07:38 PM
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EDIT

no I am still getting big time crashing with turning off hardware acceleration in NVDVD 2.55

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Old 07-18-2004, 08:03 PM
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Just wanted to post a picture to make sure we are all on the same page

also the crashing was after opening the NVDVD decoder properties from the taskbar and changing some settings

and overlay worked fine without the black bars in version 2.55
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Old 07-19-2004, 04:27 AM
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Sorry for the delay. VMR9.

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Old 07-19-2004, 06:20 AM
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What are you DXVA settings in Sage?
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Old 07-19-2004, 09:34 AM
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Old 07-19-2004, 11:54 AM
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I was using NVDVD 2.55 for video and it was causing my htpc to randomly reboot. I dunno if it was DxVA related, and I ended up switching to cyberlink video decoder.
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Old 07-19-2004, 12:30 PM
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How is the Cyberlink decoder?
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Old 07-19-2004, 01:26 PM
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I've got it on my MCE machine and it seems to work fine on there, I'm going to try it on the Sage box tonight or tomorrow and I will report back my findings .

Right now I'm using WinDVD 6's decoders, and have had some spotty results (some odd hangups and other oddities), not sure if it's the decoder or something else though.
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:24 PM
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my DXVA settings and deinterlace settings are default in Sage

I thought it was working fine with just 2.55 and then opened the taskbar icon and started changing stuff in there and crash
and it happened more than once
with hardware acceleration box checked I never had any of these problems


Cyberlink is ok but a little buggy from my past use
I like the audio decoder alot for DVDs
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Old 07-20-2004, 12:27 AM
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I suspect a similar thing happened to me. The NVDVD problems started only after I fiddled around with some of the settings. I haven't had the time to go back and try ot fix it, so I just switched to cyberlink.

The cyberlink decoder works fine, but I think NVDVD was slightly better.
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Old 07-20-2004, 12:34 AM
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well powerDVD retail does not support VMR9
and I am only having issues with VMR9 rendering using NVDVD without hardware acceleration
my guess is that you used the audio decoder
if thats the case
it was your problem

oh and by the way
someone asked before what version this was of the beta I was using
it was the leaked version
so it must be 3.0.5 or something
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Old 07-20-2004, 01:30 AM
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ok got a response from Frey's about this with nvDVD 2.55

Quote:
Robert,

I showed the developer your error and he says it will be fixed in 2.1. I'm not sure of when the actual release date yet. We are still working some things out.

Thanks,

George
this was the original support response to the beta nvDVD 3



Quote:
Robert,

We haven't tested Sage with the beta version NVDVD. Uninstall it and install
2.55 and see how that goes.

Thanks,

George Oms
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support@freytechnologies.com
http://www.sage.tv/
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