"High speed" wireless G hardware

[bhageman]

I'm looking to upgrade from B to G. Belkin has "high speed" hardware that is suppose to offer 125Mbps instead of the standard 54Mbps. Netgear offers hardware that offers thru-put of 108Mbps.

Is anyone using this "high speed" hardware yet? If so, does it improve performance or is this a marketing gimmick?

[jkf]

Here's a review of some competing high-speed g routers: http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Review...WRT54GS-10.php

It looks like it is faster, but you won't see speeds anywhere near 100mbps in actual use.

[bhageman]

Perfect article. Thanks!

Cliff Note version: It's marketing hype.

[broderp]

Originally posted by bhageman
Perfect article. Thanks!

Cliff Note version: It's marketing hype.

FYI, I have wireless G "regular" (54Kbs) on my network. I can easily stream video with NO ISSUES from my HTPC to my DELL laptop in full screen.

[TakeFlight]

Originally posted by broderp
FYI, I have wireless G "regular" (54Kbs) on my network. I can easily stream video with NO ISSUES from my HTPC to my DELL laptop in full screen.

Same here. Note my message from another thread...

http://forums.freytechnologies.com/f...1221#post51221

[kny3twalker]

I have big issues
I record most video at 8MB/sec or 6MB/sec

the 6MB/sec does ok in short range
usually some stuttering
and the 8MB/sec is constant stuttering

using wireless g only
on a Centrino 1.5 GHz

[broderp]

Originally posted by kny3twalker
I have big issues
I record most video at 8MB/sec or 6MB/sec

the 6MB/sec does ok in short range
usually some stuttering
and the 8MB/sec is constant stuttering

using wireless g only
on a Centrino 1.5 GHz

Hmmmm, if I had to guess, I would say it's a system (PC) issue, not a network issue.

Someone calculated the megabits per second rate required for video (at what quality????) and 54MBS I thought was found to be "adequete".

Possibly a CPU issue. Both my HTPC (hooked to my Lynksys router via cable (100MBS) and my laptop (54mBS wireless card)
have CPU's at or above 2.4Ghz 400MHz FSB.

My default recording quality is the highest setting (what ever that is , 3"something")and I have no issues such as you described.

Sorry it doesn't work so well for you.

[heffe2001]

I also use the best setting, and can stream to my lappie without any problems. I do know if you have any wireless B connections on your network, it will ramp the entire network down to 11mb max, so the b's will work. Kinda sucks if you're needing faster connections :P

[TakeFlight]

Not only can I stream video without a problem, but last night I was copying a 6GB MPG from my HTPC to my other computer over the wireless network while I was streaming live TV to my laptop and it was playing fine. And the wireless connection said it was only 24Mbps on my laptop because it wasn't getting all that great a signal where I had it sitting. The record setting on Sage is set to "Great - 2GB per hour". But I've also been able to stream shows recorded at the highest recording level as well without a problem. Two at the same time in fact. But when I was doing that I was getting an excellent signal. I can carry my laptop throughout my house while streaming live TV to it and it never skips a beat.

[shhas]

Here is my 2 cents

I have a D-Link Super G (108 speed)network and for most part it works OK within a 50 foot range. Once you are beyond 50 or so, it chokes (the bandwith reading software that comes with D-link says that I am getting around 50-70 speed) in that range. If you are within 20 feet, it's almost like a wired LAN.

Streaming live TV is not a very good idea with wireless unless you have a very small house.

I mainly use my client PC to program the Server which is in the basement. Later on I watch the recorded shows on the client by using RealPlayer. (I highly recommend this as it would buffer the video based on your custom setting). There is no glitch at all even when the speed is in 40-50 range. All the other programs I have checked (Nero showtime, Windows media player, Power DVD, Win DVD) do not have the ability for your home lan.

Wish list for SAGE: ability to buffer video (e.g. 20-30 sec buffer) for streaming purposes.

[mls]

Originally posted by shhas

Streaming live TV is not a very good idea with wireless unless you have a very small house.

I've seen comments similar to this in other posts relating to wireless coverage and I'm a bit confused as to just what you people live in?

An "average" lot size around here is only 120 x 60 feet, so there would be nothing outside of a usable range unless you went next door.

Do all you people live in mansions or what?

[heffe2001]

I set up a 54g connection at one of our sales people's houses a couple weeks ago, and their laptop came up with no less than 7 seperate networks. At least 4 were insecure(no passwords, no encryption, nothing), the others broadcast their ID's, but not the keys.

The houses there were all pretty close together, front and back.

[TakeFlight]

Originally posted by mls
I've seen comments similar to this in other posts relating to wireless coverage and I'm a bit confused as to just what you people live in?

An "average" lot size around here is only 120 x 60 feet, so there would be nothing outside of a usable range unless you went next door.

Do all you people live in mansions or what?

Obviously it's hard to compare houses or to accurately describe my house but I'll give a little more info. My house is 2 floors with a basement and about 1700-1800 sq. ft with 3 bedrooms. It's a modest size house. Not small, but not very large either. I don't have any problems streaming live TV throughout the entire house. My wireless router is on the first floor towards the back of the house. I can stream into the basement (just below the router) or upstairs into all three bedrooms and of course anywhere on the first floor without a problem. I would say the furthest point is probably about 50 to 60 feet. So, it's entirely possible to stream live TV in a decent size house. Certainly anything smaller than my house should not be a problem at all unless you have pipes or appliances or other things that get in the way of the signal.

[kny3twalker]

Hmmmm, if I had to guess, I would say it's a system (PC) issue, not a network issue.

Someone calculated the megabits per second rate required for video (at what quality????) and 54MBS I thought was found to be "adequete".

Possibly a CPU issue. Both my HTPC (hooked to my Lynksys router via cable (100MBS) and my laptop (54mBS wireless card)
have CPU's at or above 2.4Ghz 400MHz FSB.

My default recording quality is the highest setting (what ever that is , 3"something")and I have no issues such as you described.

Sorry it doesn't work so well for you.

Are you kiding me???????

HAHAHAHA

my Centrino 1.5 GHz(the fastest Intel Pentium M could buy was 1.7 Ghz at the time) is faster than your 2.4 GHz (go look at benchmarks)

and it works fine with a LAN connection

HAHAHAHA(sorry still laughing)

the laptop is only two months old

and I live in a 1200 sq ft 2 bedroom apartment

But we have troubles with Cell phones, Cordless phones, etc ... sometimes inside so I am not really surprised
(I think it is the location but the apartments(two year old community) are in the Suburbs)

I maybe able to lower my recording quality and get better playback but I think I will just wait for the MVP support of some kind or a buffer option

[heffe2001]

Do you happen to have XP on the lappie (I'm going to assume you do). There's a known problem with XP & wireless where it just arbitrarily looses connection to the network. It's supposed to be fixed in SP2 though, which hopefully will be out in the next 2 weeks or so.

[kny3twalker]

yeah two month old notebook has XP PRO

[broderp]

Originally posted by mls
I've seen comments similar to this in other posts relating to wireless coverage and I'm a bit confused as to just what you people live in?

An "average" lot size around here is only 120 x 60 feet, so there would be nothing outside of a usable range unless you went next door.

Do all you people live in mansions or what?

I was thinking the same thing as well. My modest little home (all brick, single story on a slab) is like 60 ft x 35 ft., and about 1800 square feet total.

My router is at the very far end of the house next to an outside wall and my bedroom is at the opposite end of the house, maybe 55 ft away.

I suppose if your lucky enough to have a HUGE house where the didstance your driving a signal is an issue, let me know, cause I'd consider trading homes if it's that big a deal!

[rrussell]

You could also try assigning fixed IP addresses to the PCs on your LAN, if you're using DHCP now.

I have no idea why, but that fixed bandwidth issues on my *wired* router, going from an XP server to a 2000 client.

[kny3twalker]

my PCs have static IP only the router has dynamic (DHCP DLS)
and no I live in a 1200 sq ft apartment
but as I said we have troubles with any type of wireless technology in this apartment
I had to update my cell phone when I first moved in because I could get a signal from inside

[broderp]

Originally posted by kny3twalker
Are you kiding me???????

HAHAHAHA

my Centrino 1.5 GHz(the fastest Intel Pentium M could buy was 1.7 Ghz at the time) is faster than your 2.4 GHz (go look at benchmarks)

and it works fine with a LAN connection

HAHAHAHA(sorry still laughing)

the laptop is only two months old

and I live in a 1200 sq ft 2 bedroom apartment

But we have troubles with Cell phones, Cordless phones, etc ... sometimes inside so I am not really surprised
(I think it is the location but the apartments(two year old community) are in the Suburbs)

I maybe able to lower my recording quality and get better playback but I think I will just wait for the MVP support of some kind or a buffer option

You know I was trying to help, no need to be a jackass about my comments.

Your PC may be faster, and newer, but mine works. Hows that for help? What good is faster if it doesn't work? Either that or move? Theres some more help for ya, HAHAHAHAHA, laugh at me all you want, I'll just be over here watching my programs on my wireless, slow laptop, as streamed from my wireless SLOW server.