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Old 10-19-2004, 09:22 PM
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New Nvdvd decoders WOW!

So far both sound and audio are doing great. PQ is pretty dang good.

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:49 AM
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Thank You
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Old 10-20-2004, 06:18 AM
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Do these work on non-Nvidia graphics chipsets? (I have an ATI chipset in my laptop, would like to try these on that)

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Old 10-20-2004, 08:28 AM
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Do these work on non-Nvidia graphics chipsets? (I have an ATI chipset in my laptop, would like to try these on that)

Cheers, Barnaby
worked on my 9800 last night.
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:51 AM
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Down loading now..

Hey Walker, did you have a chance to play with these? I like to get you feedback befor I bother on installing.
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Old 10-20-2004, 09:37 AM
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Been running AOpen's mpeg2-decoder_40029 in Sage for a couple of days.
Haven’t had any problems.
Can’t tell much difference from NVDVD 2.55 with composite input to a standard TV.
The installation did remove my NVDVD 2.55 player.
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:30 AM
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Are you guys using VMR9 setttings?

I tried NVDVD2.55 with VMR9 but my video was really choppy and laggy and the sound was off too. I looked at my CPU useage and it was almost maxing out.

So I went back to my Sonic Video Drivers.

Are the Nvidia drivers CPU heavy? I'm only running a 1.4 GHz Tbird and 256 meg ram.

PS - the color and picture of the NVDVD2.55 was awesome compared to my sonic drivers.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:21 AM
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Hey everybody, the nVDVD decoders are now available (officially) from nVidia.

See here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder.html

Although before you buy, note the fine print:
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* The NVIDIA DVD Decoder works with Microsoft Windows Media Center, Windows Media Player, Interactual and NVIDIA ForceWare Multimedia applications only for DVD playback. Use of the decoder with other applications will result in no audio during DVD playback.
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Word at AVS (from actual users) is that it works fine in other apps, it's just the DD/DTS decoding only work in the apps listed. Probably a liscensing/certification thing. Oh, and VPP is included as well apparently.

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The official word on application support:
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NVVPP is included

All apps are supported for video and audio via SPDIF including ZP, etc.

Only MCE, WMP and FWMM app support audio via 2channel analog due to Dolby licensing restrictions

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Old 10-20-2004, 11:26 AM
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Good thing Sage allows you to use any audio decoder you want . I noticed this with the TT version as well. I am using NVDVD Video and Sonic audio. Intervideo audio works well too but Sonic gets me my DD passthrough for DVD's.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:39 AM
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Since installing this removed the NVDVD app (from 2.55), how do you get to the interface to set options? I was hoping that upgrading to this would fix the SP2 ghosting problems after seek, but it doesn't seem to.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:47 AM
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Since installing this removed the NVDVD app (from 2.55), how do you get to the interface to set options?
From the FAQ:
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Once playback has started, check the Windows taskbar for a new NVIDIA icon that displays the name “NVIDIA Decoders” when your mouse hovers over it. Right mouse click on that icon and select “Decoder Properties.”
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:48 AM
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Or you can use Radlight filter manager or graphedit to change the filter properties.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:06 PM
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So does this version fix the issues with VMR9 and ff/rw? I tried an earlier beta but would get 5 to 10 second pauses sometimes when using ff or rw.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:09 PM
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Got to the interface, using RadLight. Thanks! I tried to access it via the system tray icon - that's trickier than it seems. The pop-up menu disappears on me.

It didn't fix the VMR9 issues for me. (my issues were the ghosting with SP2) - no such problems with VMR9+SP1. I disabled hardware acceleration for the decoder, and FF/RW works ok. Not sure what I lose by disabling that. I don't get any pauses like you mention, though.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:14 PM
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So does this version fix the issues with VMR9 and ff/rw? I tried an earlier beta but would get 5 to 10 second pauses sometimes when using ff or rw.
I have never seen this with any of the beta's. Did you try different audio decoders with it?
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:23 PM
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I've tried both the Sonic and Intervideo Non-CSS audio decoders. I'll try installing the latest version to see if it makes a difference. Of course, I'll purchase it if I decide to use it
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Old 10-20-2004, 01:17 PM
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what's the difference between the 'official' download of the decoders and the ones posted at the top of the thread?

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Old 10-20-2004, 01:22 PM
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Asside from the fact that it's "official" and not gray-market.

It includes the software VPP
It's newer (newer even than the TT2 version)
It includes the nStant Media player/frontend
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Old 10-20-2004, 04:36 PM
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I see this exact same behavior with 4.0.0.20 beta. Too bad too, because it works great with VMR9 on my machine... But I can't like with it screwing up almost everytime I FFWD.

Have not tried the official / released version yet.

Jason

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So does this version fix the issues with VMR9 and ff/rw? I tried an earlier beta but would get 5 to 10 second pauses sometimes when using ff or rw.
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Old 10-20-2004, 04:51 PM
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Well I went ahead and purchased/installed the release version during lunch. I had to completely uninstall/remove the older version. I first tried to install over the top and it didn't work. In addition, I deleted all of the left-over stuff in the Nvidia directory just to be sure. Anyway, it looks GREAT. The task-bar icon has LOTS of new options that I didn't get in the betas. I'm still having difficulty getting the audio decoder to work (I get an error in Sage, I did set it to SPDIF in the included player) but the PQ is the best to date (Sonic, Elecard+DScaler, NVDVD 2.55, 3.x, 4.x betas, WinDVD6, and PowerDVD5).
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