what drivers to run 1080i from DVI via 6800?

[kny3twalker]

well zoom player is adding renderless vmr9
hopefully SageTV will finished what they left incomplete and give mlbdude the config option he wants hehe
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...postid=4971952

[kny3twalker]

mlbdude, do you have problems with mediator and how it uses exclusive full screen
the change to exclusive full screen in it is very smooth IMO

[mlbdude]

Originally Posted by kny3twalker

mlbdude, do you have problems with mediator and how it uses exclusive full screen
the change to exclusive full screen in it is very smooth IMO

My experience with this is in MCE. Switching between exclusive full screen and not works just like you are al-tabbing between a full screen game and another application. Make for a less than desireable integration experience. MCE makes it worse by switching between exclusive mode itself when you play music or have the screen save kick in.

I jump out of MCE to ZoomPlayer for all DVD playback. Using plain old windowless VMR9 I get better looking and performaing playback than what I get with MCE. It would be nice if MCE could be configured to not do the exclusive part.

[GbrNole]

i'm at a confusing crossroads - the card i returned just got credited rather than return shipped so now i'm not sure if i want to go with another 6600gt and worry of let down again or instead go with a 9600pro and a dongle???

kny - how did your 9600 look in comparisson to your 6800? i just need something that can play 1080i in sage with little or no confusion!!!

mlb - how does 1080i on you 9600 look from a flicker standpoint? i assume you're using the catalyst 4.12 set? also how do the dscaler5.005 codecs look on your set?
better yet what is your best quality picture setup using that 9600? (ie. codec and ffdshow settings) i may need to upgrade my cpu since it's only a p4 2.0 100(x4) FSB.

my biggest quandry was that the 6600gt looked so good when it worked - i need some screenies!!!

[kny3twalker]

wow if sageTV does add it
I hope it is just for video(TV)/DVDs

kny - how did your 9600 look in comparisson to your 6800? i just need something that can play 1080i in sage with little or no confusion!!!

the VMR9 is much better
but I cannot get nice playback
except with two apps now (we know which)
I always end up back at overlay in SageTV and the colors are really off
and about Dscaler
I have yet to see better quality from anything playing back recorded TV/liveTV than the VMR9 smart mode pixel adaptive
I am much easier on DVDs
as they normally just look nice

[mlbdude]

Originally Posted by GbrNole

i'm at a confusing crossroads - the card i returned just got credited rather than return shipped so now i'm not sure if i want to go with another 6600gt and worry of let down again or instead go with a 9600pro and a dongle???

kny - how did your 9600 look in comparisson to your 6800? i just need something that can play 1080i in sage with little or no confusion!!!

mlb - how does 1080i on you 9600 look from a flicker standpoint? i assume you're using the catalyst 4.12 set? also how do the dscaler5.005 codecs look on your set?
better yet what is your best quality picture setup using that 9600? (ie. codec and ffdshow settings) i may need to upgrade my cpu since it's only a p4 2.0 100(x4) FSB.

my biggest quandry was that the 6600gt looked so good when it worked - i need some screenies!!!

9600 looks beautifull. I tried and love the DScaler decoder. For most DVD's it is the best looking one. However, it does not do any kind of deinterlacing so that is limiting right now. But for 90% of my DVD's it looks great.

I don't notice any flicker at all when watching video or in Sage or MCE. Looking at small items on the desktop I get some flicker since it is an interlaced resolution.

I "upgraded" to a 5700 awhile back for TV to get better VMR9 performance. Something allong the way switched and I now get perfect VMR9 from the ATI. Since moving to HDTV though I could not tell a difference when watching TV in MCE with either. I don't watch much sports in SD any more though so not sure if that is a factor.

Seems if you are going to use ffdshow then either solution would end up looking the same. If you plan on using DXVA then the nVidia may eventually look better with DVD's.

For ffdshow I keep it simple. Just use Lanczos4. Tried other settings and on good DVD's they helped but on older DVD's they made the bad spots look worse. The resize alone is instantly noticable when playing back in MCE and ZP.

If I knew the drivers would be fixed for the 6600 I would go with that just beacuse it is newer. If they had a non-GT version I would jump on it myself since the cost risk is much lower.

[GbrNole]

Originally Posted by mlbdude

However, it does not do any kind of deinterlacing so that is limiting right now. But for 90% of my DVD's it looks great.

not exactly a correct statement.

if you set dscaler5 to use yuy (i'm pretty sure it was yuy?) instead of yv12 and set the deinterlace setting to "video" rather than "automatic" then it deinterlaces really well in sage.

JohnAd himself pointed that little tidbit of info out

ps. what processor are you using? i need to get around to changing mine but i don't know if i should just throw a faster p4 in there (or maybe a celeron d and just OC the balls off it which they are very capable of) or go the whole honk and change the mobo and chip out for maybe an athlon 64.

[mlbdude]

The best part of YV12 though is the decreased CPU usage when using ffdshow.

I am using an Athlon XP 2500. I recently upgraded to an Intel 3.2e but backed it out. It was too hot and noisy for the barely noticeable performance increase I saw. If you want to buy mine let me know . If I had a do over I would go the Athlon64 route.

[GbrNole]

Originally Posted by mlbdude

The best part of YV12 though is the decreased CPU usage when using ffdshow.

I am using an Athlon XP 2500. I recently upgraded to an Intel 3.2e but backed it out. It was too hot and noisy for the barely noticeable performance increase I saw. If you want to buy mine let me know . If I had a do over I would go the Athlon64 route.

damn i'd be putting that 3.2e to work in a nice remote server for handling extender duties and ripping the bejezus out of dvd's to recompress!

well if you're having that much luck with just an xp2500 then maybe an oc'd celeron d running at maybe 3.4 ghz might be a pretty decent choice for my pc. they run on a lot less voltage despite the core than a regular prescott so they're a rair bit cooler.

my other budget choice was an xp2400 mobile on a biostar board clocked to whatever it will be happy at.